It's getting hot in here!

[TheScarf]

14 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

30 odd years ago it was so hot in London that the company allowed us to work 6am-2pm to avoid the worst of the heat.

No air conditioning in the office.

Everyone in suits and ties.

And people were still allowed to smoke in the office.

Changed days. 

#COYI #WATP

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, ICTChris said:

You said that 36 degrees in London wouldn't be massively out of the ordinary.  It would be one of the hottest days in recorded history there.

It was 38 degrees in 2003, and 37.8 as recently as 2020. In that context, 36 degrees really isn't massively out of the ordinary at all.

I did say it was very hot, but it's not overly notable in itself.

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

Those vile 'experts' at the Met Office should be in the gallows.

I'm not going to wear sunscreen, just to get one up on them.

[Granny Danger]

Anyone know how hot it’s going to be in the U.K. today?

[welshbairn]

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36C or more has been seen in 7 years since 1900  (1911, 1932, 1990, 2003, 2006, 2015, 2019)

https://www.trevorharley.com/hottest-day-of-each-year-from-1900.html

[DAFC.]

Never had heatwaves like this before they COVID vaccines. It truly makes you wonder. 

[dorlomin]

 

 

 

We get a warm mass of air coming up off the Sahara as in this week, or back in 2019 when we had a sustained high pressure over the UK for a couple of weeks, the maximum temperatures are made (on average) higher than when such weather phenomena happened before. 

The physics is simple, more CO2 means more IR coming back to the surface. This then in turn means more water vapor can be held in the atmosphere which also increases the greenhouse effect acting as a feedback. There is a lot more to the science, but on the whole what had been predicted back in the 70s and 80s is broadly happening. 

This is a bit repeating the basics. But it seems the basics are back under discussion again. 

 

Edited on the left is the incoming short wave radiation, that hits the ground warming it up. That the emits infrared (long wave radiation). That then gets trapped in the atmosphere and some returned to the ground, that extra bit is in very basic terms the greenhouse effect. 

The more greenhouse gasses the more infrared comes back and warms the surface. 

 

Edited July 18, 2022 by dorlomin

[Thorongil]

Just in case anyone says it’s the media and not the Met Office. 2pm nearly and no records broken yet so as far as today goes they have about 1 hour. Bet it doesn’t happen tomorrow either.

40 appears to be off the table after all.
 

 

[coprolite]

40 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

There is a red warning in place where I am right now. It's 31 degrees.

It's going to get nowhere near 40 degrees here, so why are they not removing the warning?

It's 34 where I am and we've only got amber. 

How can this be allowed to happen? 

[Iminavest]

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

Are the kids playing with the melting tar on the roads yet?

[Bairnardo]

Are the kids playing with the melting tar on the roads yet?

No mate, bloody health and safety and the EU stopping them.

[coprolite]

6 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

The argument is that whilst the overwhelming majority of climate change is natural, man-made effects account for around 5%, and it's this 5% which is enough to push the climate out of balance. I understand that argument and it's persuasive. Unfortunately they can't provide a smoking gun (as they had to do with the ozone layer) so there is always room for doubt.

As usual though, the problem is the vocal, partly-educated cult-following that climate change attracts. People parroting the views of whatever "expert" is telling them what they want to hear. Not one of the people blocking motorways will be able to sit down and talk about the science because they don't have the background to understand any of it but they'll be so convinced they are right that they'll risk jail time to hammer their view home and f**k anyone who disagrees with them. That's where the kickback from ordinary members of the public starts kicking in. Cult members never realise that's it's their shrieking control-freakery which is at the heart of public resistance to an issue and not the issue itself. Replace climate change with covid or trans issues or whatever and you have that repeating pattern.

We need fewer howling banshees trying to control everyone IMO.

Absolutely bollocks mate. 

Maybe ~5% of CO2 emissions being man made would be right. 

Virtually all of the observed temperature increases can be attributed to man made CO2 emissions. 

[Lofarl]

What we need is Mr Burns.

[Todd_is_God]

4 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

The argument is that whilst the overwhelming majority of climate change is natural, man-made effects account for around 5%, and it's this 5% which is enough to push the climate out of balance. I understand that argument and it's persuasive. Unfortunately they can't provide a smoking gun (as they had to do with the ozone layer) so there is always room for doubt.

This would perhaps be more believable had the climate not been much, much colder (and much, much warmer) than it is now, throughout the history of the Earth.

Ultimately, the climate will do as it likes, and there is nothing we can do to stop it. Whether or not we are able to slow it down or speed it up by a small margin is really neither here nor there as, without being able to actually control the climate (because we can't), it doesn't actually matter in the grand scheme of things.

The more sensible course of action is to accept this and invest and prepare for the climate warming rather than pissing into the wind trying to prevent the inevitable.

[ICTJohnboy]

Advice from news and weather people :

Stay inside, and avoid caffeine and alcohol.

I'm okay with the first part of that.

[Billy Jean King]

It appears Covid Denier = Climate change Denier.

What's the chances of that eh ?

[Clown Job]

 

[Stephen Malkmus]

Just walked to the shop. Nobody outside. Felt uncomfortable, dizzy and could feel my skin burning. Noticeably different to any other pleasant day. Just like being in the Ross County end am I right?

[Venti]

22 minutes ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said:

Are the kids playing with the melting tar on the roads yet?