Grangemouth Bairn Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, Lofarl said: So will he be in charge for Wednesday? I suppose it will depend on what his rehabilitation plan looks like. I wish Ricey all the best and fingers crossed he can beat this addiction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovinnen Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Brave from Rice, first class response from Hamilton Good luck to him in getting back in control of his addiction and keeping it at bey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 That's one of the more open and heartfelt statements I think I've ever read from a football club/manager. Good stuff. Hope Accies stand by him and that he gets the help he needs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Is there any precedent for a manager doing this? Anyway, absolutely massive respect for opening up and reporting himself to the SFA. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Centre-back apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeFlash Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 48 minutes ago, accies1874 said: Centre-back apparently. Yay, a 21 year old who has never played a professional game 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Yay, a 21 year old who has never played a professional game [emoji52]Has played 3 games across the FA and Carabao cup. Starting in 1 of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laid-back Accie Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 I think the club have to stand by Rice and so they should, would be the height of hypocrisy for them to turn their back on him with amount of community and addict shite that comes out of the club daily. Definitely want to see Rice continue, he hasn't always got the tactics right, but has shown that he can give a great team talk to fire up the boys when needed and his connections are invaluable aka Southwood and Stubbs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owsley Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 54 minutes ago, Scotty Tunbridge said: Has played 3 games across the FA and Carabao cup. Starting in 1 of them. Looks very tall, taller than Stubbs. Encouraging that Palace gave him a new two year deal recently but why the long wait to get him out on loan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Laid-back Accie said: I think the club have to stand by Rice and so they should, would be the height of hypocrisy for them to turn their back on him with amount of community and addict shite that comes out of the club daily. Definitely want to see Rice continue, he hasn't always got the tactics right, but has shown that he can give a great team talk to fire up the boys when needed and his connections are invaluable aka Southwood and Stubbs. Definitely brave and admirable of Rice, and wish him all the best for his recovery. Also praise to the club for saying they will stand by their man. However unless I'm miles off here is it not the case that it's up to the SFA, not the club, as to whether he is allowed to continued in his post - I thought that he could be banned from coaching for breaching the rules / code of conduct? Happy to be corrected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutz_the_Squirrel Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 (edited) It could certainly change the way Scottish football interfaces with football gambling. If the SFA impose a charge, then there would be, hopefully, a huge reaction from the football community. If they don't, then it creates a precedent for everyone cited on such a charge to get off with it- the rules would have to change. We need to view addictions as a medical condition to reduce the stigma which presents these issues as some kind of choice. If Scottish Football were to adopt this kind of thinking, then it would have consequences for all players and employees of football clubs. This could and should start with an amnesty, whereby timely reporting is supported without fear of repercussion, which would also grant players access to specialist support- paid for jointly by the SFA and football clubs (I'd suggest out of fairness the levy for clubs should be taken out, proportionally, from prize money... also FTOF). There should also be a gambling charter, to which all clubs must sign up, whereby clubs must evidence what they are doing to raise awareness of this issue, and create a culture of acceptance and support, to a degree where players are encouraged as much as is practically possible to come forward. A bit ranty, but crossing my fingers for a therapeutic, rather than draconian response from the SFA. Perhaps shouldn't hold my breath. Edited January 20, 2020 by Nutz_the_Squirrel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudgeFlash Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Scotty Tunbridge said: Has played 3 games across the FA and Carabao cup. Starting in 1 of them. Youre right, however, he's played 90 minutes against a fourth tier english side, and only 25 minutes against championship sides. I repeat, at the age of 21, he's played a grand total of 115 minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentino Bolognese Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, Nutz_the_Squirrel said: It could certainly change the way Scottish football interfaces with football gambling. If the SFA impose a charge, then there would be, hopefully, a huge reaction from the football community. If they don't, then it creates a precedent for everyone cited on such a charge to get off with it- the rules would have to change. We need to view addictions as a medical condition to reduce the stigma which presents these issues as some kind of choice. If Scottish Football were to adopt this kind of thinking, then it would have consequences for all players and employees of football clubs. This could and should start with an amnesty, whereby timely reporting is supported without fear of repercussion, which would also grant players access to specialist support- paid for jointly by the SFA and football clubs (I'd suggest out of fairness the levy for clubs should be taken out, proportionally, from prize money... also FTOF). There should also be a gambling charter, to which all clubs must sign up, whereby clubs must evidence what they are doing to raise awareness of this issue, and create a culture of acceptance and support, to a degree where players are encouraged as much as is practically possible to come forward. A bit ranty, but crossing my fingers for a therapeutic, rather than draconian response from the SFA. Perhaps shouldn't hold my breath. Some good points there, and agree with the sentiment that the SFA should be supportive and also that addictions should indeed be looked at and treated as illnesses. I think where we might disagree slightly is that in the case of sports gambling there does need to be a zero tollerance approach as there's clearly an opportunity if not to directly impact results (and I am not for one second suggesting that this is the case here - Rice might have been betting on the dogs for all I know) then certainly to use insider knowledge to gain advantage. Making your living as a professional in sports should, IMO, mean that you don't get to indulge in sports betting - at the very least not the sport you operate in. In Rice's case I think that you are right that 'do nothing' isn't really an option as that sets a precedent, but yes there should be some form of support/safety net perhaps by way of an industry fund or collective insurance as you suggest. For all the club don't want to support him I don't see how he can continue to hold a coaching licence, at least in the short term. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accies88 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Far as I'm concerned big Yogi might come in for the games 10 games hopefully........ The daft fitbaws brains will love it . Seriously though what we gonna do?. Not Boozy surely?. Xxx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accies88 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Oh and btw . Good luck Chipper 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 16 hours ago, Owsley said: Looks very tall, taller than Stubbs. Encouraging that Palace gave him a new two year deal recently but why the long wait to get him out on loan? You'll just have to hope he isn't another Ryan Iniss. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 On 20/01/2020 at 12:12, AFCDannyFTH said: What's the odds on him getting punted? Wonder if he stuck a wad on being the next Premiership manager to lose his job before self reporting his gambling to the SFA. Seriously though, good luck to him, hope he gets the help he needs to get through it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'd given up on Southwood after the article I shared the other day, but my hopes have been raised again. Wonder if Woods is signed to start or be backup to Easton and Hamilton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Hamilton Accas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Signing emoji has been posted, I repeat signing emoji has been posted.Crystal Palace guy I imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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