Sergeant Wilson Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, lichtie23 said: So he turned down an offer for the club today? If only there was some way of finding out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab B Nesbit Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 Bolton Wanderers manager Phil Parkinson and assistant Steve Parkin have resigned from their positions. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 Nathan Jones' peg must be quite shoogly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonHMFC Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 8 hours ago, 7-2 said: Nathan Jones' peg must be quite shoogly Had a good go at Butland after the game. Would enjoy seeing Stoke down in League One. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 Watched Leeds v Brentford on the red button last night. Just a standard Leeds performance really. One that'll see them top at Christmas then finish 4th, losing the play off semi final to someone like Derby or West Brom. Lots of huffing and puffing but no real quality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor von Doom Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Have some faith in Magic said: What a farce, kick them both out now. Given the amount of fixtures in they league Bury will be playing just about every midweek. It's also unfair on the other teams. Well said. This whole thing is a comedy show. It's almost surreal that the two clubs and their fans can be universally portrayed as "victims", but society in general and the media in particular seem to need the catharsis provided by empathising with "victims" on a daily basis. Fans of other clubs will already be out of pocket. When the fixtures came out, many will have gone straight on the Trainline website and booked trains to Manchester - and maybe hotels in the Greater Manchester area - for their teams' games at Bolton and Bury. Those fans have done their dough. Other clubs who've had their games against these two postponed will now have to trek to Lancashire in midweek, possibly in mid-winter, with games being called-off due to weather, when they may be on a cup run and might be suffering from fixture congestion anyway. These are two commercial businesses that have been appallingly run, been trading insolvently and have now reaped what they sowed. It happens every day. The only "victims" for whom any sympathy should be felt are the staff doing "normal" jobs at the two clubs who might be on the bru for a while... and even they would've been aware that their employers were sailing uncomfortably close to the wind, so the P45 won't come as a complete shock. And of course, the really laughable thing is that nobody connected on the football side will suffer at all. The players, coaches, physios, etc. will get their money and will soon find other clubs. The fans will love it. Their club will re-form next season as "Bolton Wanderers 2020 FC Ltd" or "AFC Bury Ltd" and will be back playing again.... at the ground they currently occupy. So long as they retain access to the ground, with the attached guarantee of a massive level of support, any punishment will be almost meaningless. I believe current FA regulations state that new clubs should not be admitted to levels above Division 10, though Bolton in particular might successfully plead that the size of their support could create Health & Safety issues at that level, so they may get in a wee bit higher. In Lancashire, Division 10 is the regional divisions of the North-West Counties League. The fans will have a great time. They'll be going to quaint villages, with village greens and good pubs, within 30 miles of Manchester. They'll get there with no more than an hour's train/bus journey or drive, so no expensive away trips hitting the pocket. They will be welcomed throughout the league as a novelty. They'll win every week. The club will also presumably be allowed to contest the FA Vase - meaning "Jolly Boys' Outings" to quaint villages, with village greens and good pubs, over the Pennines in the early rounds and "Dahn Saaaf" later on, with a strong possibility of a trip to that Scheidt-Hole-on-Circ Stadium in a scummy London suburb that English fans gets so misty-eyed about. Season Two of "2020 FC" will see the NewCo club sluice the North-West Counties Premier. Season Three will be a triumph in a regional division of the Northern Premier League. Then they'll be up to the Northern Premier proper, where they'll be facing the types of club they'd currently meet in Round One of the FA Cup: clubs at the level of top Juniors in Scotland, pulling 200 to 800 fans. That league currently includes FC United of Manchester, who were relegated last spring, and the re-formed Scarborough. Normal service will have resumed. Of course, things will be interesting if both the basketcase outfits do indeed go belly-up and arrive in the same regional division of the North-West Counties League next August. The English "Pyramid" is re-organising at the minute, but there will likely be steps to negotiate at which there are no play-offs and only the champions get promotion. When Rangers went belly-up, I endured a drunken rant by a Sheep fan that had a lot of merit. He lamented that Rangers would be back in the Premier in three years and went through the list of points above: good days out at quaint wee towns, winning every week, Challenge Cup triumphs, etc.... some of which actually happened. His pished solution was that Ibrox, or any ground of a team in a bankrupt situation, shoud be subject to a compulsory purchase order from the relevant local authority and demolished! A community sports facility should take its place, thus ensuring that the new club really would have to start at grassroots level, without the guarantee of a series of swift promotions that access to the Football League calibre stadium provides. That'd be a huge disincentive to insolvent trading. Throw the pair out. Now! Edited August 22, 2019 by Victor von Doom -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repeat_offender Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 2 hours ago, TheScarf said: Watched Leeds v Brentford on the red button last night. Just a standard Leeds performance really. One that'll see them top at Christmas then finish 4th, losing the play off semi final to someone like Derby or West Brom. Lots of huffing and puffing but no real quality. I thought Leeds were worthy winners last night, Costa nutmegging the Brentford centre back before delivering the pass for the goal didn't strike me as too shabby I'll leave the promotion contender chat to others, strikes me as madness at this early stage in the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 (edited) They could always reform as Buried FC. Edited August 22, 2019 by TheIntenseHummingOfEvil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 The Bolton & Bury saga is just the beginning, drip down Economics simply don't work in any part of the economy and the cash ratio from the EPL downwards just mirrors our society in general. Survival of the fittest / most crooked and everyone else is left to flounder. It's just a phase though, the coming stockmarket crash / correction and the subsequent recession will see Sky pull their cash out, the oligarchs, Arabs and Yankee billionaires will need to reassess their priorities and it will be carnage across the boards. Shouldn't be too long now.................. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 28 minutes ago, WATTOO said: The Bolton & Bury saga is just the beginning, drip down Economics simply don't work in any part of the economy and the cash ratio from the EPL downwards just mirrors our society in general. Survival of the fittest / most crooked and everyone else is left to flounder. It's just a phase though, the coming stockmarket crash / correction and the subsequent recession will see Sky pull their cash out, the oligarchs, Arabs and Yankee billionaires will need to reassess their priorities and it will be carnage across the boards. Shouldn't be too long now.................. Does that make you happy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor von Doom Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 5 hours ago, WATTOO said: drip down Economics What the actual feck!?!?!? I don't even know an SNP voter who'd be moronic enough to use that phrase. Bolton get similar gates to the Sheep, Spoonburners & our tribute act... if they're doing OK. They have/had players on £20k per week in the very recent past. They - and every other English Championship club - receive gargantuan TV fees! How is that anything to do with Herr Thatchler's "Trickle Down" bullscheidt?!? I can just about tolerate SNP voters being thick, national socialist parasites, but insulting folk's intelligence with scheidt like that is a step too far. I suppose I should be grateful that Palestine and homophobia weren't mentioned. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor von Doom Posted August 22, 2019 Share Posted August 22, 2019 7 hours ago, WATTOO said: The Bolton & Bury saga is just the beginning, drip down Economics simply don't work in any part of the economy and the cash ratio from the EPL downwards just mirrors our society in general. Survival of the fittest / most crooked and everyone else is left to flounder. It's just a phase though, the coming stockmarket crash / correction and the subsequent recession will see Sky pull their cash out, the oligarchs, Arabs and Yankee billionaires will need to reassess their priorities and it will be carnage across the boards. Shouldn't be too long now.................. I've just had a look at your profile and recent posts. Admit it, man - you're Bob Beckman, aren't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 18 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Does that make you happy? Yes, overjoyed in fact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 10 hours ago, Victor von Doom said: I've just had a look at your profile and recent posts. Admit it, man - you're Bob Beckman, aren't you? Excellent, I've always fancied having a stalker.............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7-2 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bury-fc-phil-neville-efl-16803809 'Today, I think by five o'clock, Bury, the town itself, might not have a football club. I think it's absolutely disgraceful. My Mum has worked there for 30 years, my Dad's got a stand named after him and to consider today that they might not have a football club is for me, it's so upsetting' That's Phil Neville...the Bury born, multi-millionaire who, along with his multi-millionaire brother Gary and fellow multi-millionaire chums and business contacts, are of course currently ploughing their funds into the Salford City vanity project. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Yep, just saw that myself. Not like Phil Neville to spout complete and utter shite to the media of course, but his personal hypocrisy with this one is staggering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, 7-2 said: https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bury-fc-phil-neville-efl-16803809 'Today, I think by five o'clock, Bury, the town itself, might not have a football club. I think it's absolutely disgraceful. My Mum has worked there for 30 years, my Dad's got a stand named after him and to consider today that they might not have a football club is for me, it's so upsetting' That's Phil Neville...the Bury born, multi-millionaire who, along with his multi-millionaire brother Gary and fellow multi-millionaire chums and business contacts, are of course currently ploughing their funds into the Salford City vanity project. No idea of rules regarding elf club ownership but assume with his interest in Salford City he cant own a stake in Bury? Although I would imagine he is still able to make a donation to any fans backed ownership 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, gannonball said: No idea of rules regarding elf club ownership but assume with his interest in Salford City he cant own a stake in Bury? Should have mebbe thought about his poor wee parents when he and his mates were looking to invest in a Greater Manchester football club in the first place then. This is crocodile tears and nothing more than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Victor von Doom said: I can just about tolerate SNP voters Yes, your completely over the top response to a throwaway comment on a complete unrelated subject to politics proves that fairly well. Edited August 23, 2019 by The Moonster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, WATTOO said: Yes, overjoyed in fact. I suppose you need to find pleasure where you can. I can't imagine you get much elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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