Crùbag Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 11 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Top stuff. I've despaired of the nutty end of the Natter spectrum of late as they've been too quite but charging Boris with manslaughter has fair cheered me up. Not even a lockdown stops the Natters from being industrial strength fantasists. More than 15k have died due to his actions, or lack of them. And, he's off hiding? Meanwhile, here's Gove. What an utter knut. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It's both shocking and unsurprising, but the scale of deliberate action to remove protection is nearly beyond belief. Apart from paying for brexit propaganda it's difficult to see where the money has gone. You can only assume it's been siphoned off. I would have said before it might have gone on defence, but military sources say much the same as the health specialists. Has anyone checked we've still got boots and guns or will we buy them off the Chinese if something crops up? A ferry company without ferries and covid 19 testing kits that dont work But hs2 is going ahead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Just now, doulikefish said: A ferry company without ferries and covid 19 testing kits that dont work But hs2 is going ahead With or without trains? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 At the end of this monumental clusterfuck the negative impact on the Tory Party will be negligible. I take no pleasure from saying that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: With or without trains? That is still unknown 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) I don't think sending PPE to China when it was rampaging there and it had barely appeared here was that bad a move. The amounts were more of token support than something that could have saved the NHS. Everything else in that article was criminally negligent though. Edited April 19, 2020 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 At the end of this monumental clusterfuck the negative impact on the Tory Party will be negligible. I take no pleasure from saying that.Depressingly.......I think you're right 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford prefect Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Absolutely. Some waffle about the great British spirit, who's like us? A wee speech from the German immigrant and our dear leader will have everyone clutching their blue french made passport with pride in how great Britain really is.Where's my flag?... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 It's so class that some people tried to portray Boris as Churchillian for surviving Corona when he done the Covid equivalent of Churchill personally travelling to Dunkirk to fight the Jerries and coming back looking like Anakin Skywalker on Mustafar when Obi Wan chopped half his limbs off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_j Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 At the end of this monumental clusterfuck the negative impact on the Tory Party will be negligible. I take no pleasure from saying that.That seems likely sadlyI do hope for an”Atlee” moment with electorate.Can’t see it given smoke being blown up Johnsons arse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, marty_j said: That seems likely sadly I do hope for an”Atlee” moment with electorate. Can’t see it given smoke being blown up Johnsons arse A general election is 4 years away - this will be well gone by then. The electorate will not be having an "Attlee moment". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marty_j Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 A general election is 4 years away - this will be well gone by then. The electorate will not be having an "Attlee moment".Yeah I understand thatWay things are though I guess anything can happen It’s not beyond realms that another election could happen Just clinging on to any hope there might be 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share Posted April 19, 2020 A general election is 4 years away - this will be well gone by then. The electorate will not be having an "Attlee moment".I'm not so sure there won't be major political fall-out before this is done.This is not a minor political issue that will be tomorrow's fish n chip paper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 6 hours ago, pandarilla said: I'm not so sure there won't be major political fall-out before this is done. This is not a minor political issue that will be tomorrow's fish n chip paper. We shall see. I can just see the reaction if the opposition (and the the Lib Dems) criticise the government's handling of this too much, justified though it is. "Labour attack brave Boris", etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 Boris is Churchillian insofar as he is also a fat, bumbling, racist fool who possesses little more than the occasionally catchy soundbite. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 21 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: With or without trains? Trains yes, rails no. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 21 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: With or without trains? Don't be daft. Next you'll be saying that we'd build an aircraft carrier with no aircraft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 10 hours ago, pandarilla said: I'm not so sure there won't be major political fall-out before this is done. This is not a minor political issue that will be tomorrow's fish n chip paper. The refusal of the Government to publish the report on Russian infiltration in UK politics (and the Russian links to pol parties in UK - with likely links to the Tories) at the time of the election was said by commentators to be "jaw dropping". 5 months later it is still not published and this has been handled with scant and occasional coverage. I realise this is not comparative to the current situation and there can be an over-reaction to many things based on a subjective perception of priority. I would like to think that the Government's handling of a response to the virus which has now lead to 20k deaths will not be lost as time and events move on (particularly if it was wilful rather than ineptitude). However I am not confident that will be the case based on a media which is largely Govt compliant and an electorate that is largely right of centre/lazy/stupid/unimaginative/not politically engaged*. *delete as appropriate ** I am not right wing and like to think I am politically engaged/imaginative, but leave my laziness and stupidity to other areas of my life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 19/04/2020 at 09:35, doulikefish said: Sorry i was referring to the Sunday times artice I should have made that clearer but it has the hand of Gove all over it imo This is currently being debated on Radio Ulster and the tory mp is getting a hard time (probably because he's talking shite). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 19/04/2020 at 01:12, Crùbag said: For a Tory paper like the Times to eviscerate Johnson in that way, then surely his tenure as PM must be in question. His negligence has been criminal though obviously a lot of the shortcoming go back years. Never forget that Johnson is actually a journalist (a useless, lazy one at that) who happens to have stumbled into the world of powerful politics due to a unique cocktail of privilege, bombast, bravado, bullshit and circumstance. He's effectively employed by The Telegraph....he's just taking leave of absence to be PM.....and it'll be a cold day in hell before they, or any one of their nutcase right-wing columnists write anything critical of him. Equally, the right-wing tabloids have a lot tied up in Johnson....mainly Brexit and a raging hate of Labour or anything left wing.....so at the moment he's their useful idiot. Don't expect any kind of scrutiny or questioning of Johnson or the Tories by the likes of The Sun, Daily Mail or Express. Given that these publications cover more than 80% of UK newspaper sales, it's not wrong to say that print-wise, Johnson and the Tories have a free pass to make whatever f**k-ups they want.....knowing smugly that anything they do is unlikely to receive critical coverage. Or even any coverage at all. The Times has a bit of a love/hate relationship with Johnson as I understand it. While being at heart a conservative (small c) publication, they are at least questioning of Johnson and the Tories.....the same applied to Brexit. They're the only real non-Guardian newspaper to run a questioning eye over Tory actions, and their gravitas carries a bit of weight. Yesterday's story will have stung a Tory party used to slavish, arse licking propaganda from the press. In the end though, it'll make no difference because only a tiny amount of voters read it. So will Johnson's cowardice and incompetence have any effect in the long term......naaaaah. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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