RandomGuy. Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Aufc said: Not really. I did find it strange that he called him up, however, what clarke said made sense. Time will tell. He will be fine against san marino but i dont think he is good enough Edited to add. Shankland will possibly move onto a bigger club and improve. O’donnell is at his levep Have you, a Dundee United fan, ever actually seen O'Donnell play domestically for Kilmarnock? Genuinely can't remember if United have played top flight football in the past three years... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) Gallagher was very good at right-back last season so I would consider starting him there over O'Donnell. Edited October 7, 2019 by EdinburghLivi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 O'Donnell has been the second best right-back in the Premiership behind Tavernier for the last two years. Yes, he's clearly not good enough to play against the likes of Russia and Belgium, but I'm not sure why we would expect guys who were worse at the same level to magically do some better job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Have you, a Dundee United fan, ever actually seen O'Donnell play domestically for Kilmarnock? Genuinely can't remember if United have played top flight football in the past three years...I am not a dundee utd fan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 O'Donnell has been the second best right-back in the Premiership behind Tavernier for the last two years. Yes, he's clearly not good enough to play against the likes of Russia and Belgium, but I'm not sure why we would expect guys who were worse at the same level to magically do some better job.Whilst this may or may not be true, it highlights that generally players from the spl are not good enough for international football these days. Luckily most of our starting players are outwith the spl. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 McBurnie out Armstrong in.Quite a strange replacement was my first thought. But as mentioned I suspect Armstrong might play his part in easing the striking crisis by being deployed to support Burke from deep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 59 minutes ago, Aufc said: Well surely Liam Palmer offers more than o’donnell. Granted he wasnt great on his debut So we'll replace a diddy from the Scottish league with a diddy from the English league. Genius. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Whilst this may or may not be true, it highlights that generally players from the spl are not good enough for international football these days. Luckily most of our starting players are outwith the spl. Yip, thankfully not a single player in the squad plays in the SPL. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 I cannot believe there is a decent likelihood I am going to be watching at least one of Johnny Russell or Oliver Burke starting for Scotland again. Both miles off what we need, Russell was borderline at his peak and now offers even less, while Burke has a trampoline of a touch and a pea for a brain. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Aufc said: Said this on another thread. If we are going to pin our hopes on diddies from the spl then we ought to just chuck it SPL doesn't exist and hasn't done so for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 So we'll replace a diddy from the Scottish league with a diddy from the English league. Genius.Better with the diddy playing at a consistently higher level 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 What's the lowest ever crowd for a Hampden qualifier? Sunday will surely be close to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 The lowest I could find was 11,676 for a European Championship qualifier against Romania in 1975. I would still expect us to get way more than that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oleksandr Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The lowest I could find was 11,676 for a European Championship qualifier against Romania in 1975. I would still expect us to get way more than that. Craig 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Not really. I did find it strange that he called him up, however, what clarke said made sense. Time will tell. He will be fine against san marino but i dont think he is good enough Edited to add. Shankland will possibly move onto a bigger club and improve. O’donnell is at his levepAre San Marino worse than Alloa? He was anonymous against Alloa so I wouldn't hold out he'll rattle them in against San Marino (though I hope he does). Point I'm making is I don't know why you can get so wound up about Dykes (who's been excellent so far) getting a call up but you haven't got such an issue with Shankland, who hasn't proven himself at Dykes's level yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Are San Marino worse than Alloa? He was anonymous against Alloa so I wouldn't hold out he'll rattle them in against San Marino (though I hope he does). Point I'm making is I don't know why you can get so wound up about Dykes (who's been excellent so far) getting a call up but you haven't got such an issue with Shankland, who hasn't proven himself at Dykes's level yet. Additionally to this, Shankland chose the easy option and went to Dundee United for the money whereas Dykes chose to test himself at a higher level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Aufc said: Whilst this may or may not be true, it highlights that generally players from the spl are not good enough for international football these days. Luckily most of our starting players are outwith the spl. Aye right enough, the Irish have fair struggled with “SPL” and League 1 players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoon Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, No_Problemo said: Additionally to this, Shankland chose the easy option and went to Dundee United for the money whereas Dykes chose to test himself at a higher level. I’m pretty sure Sunderland would’ve been offering him more money, even with United’s American owners chucking a boatload at him. He wanted guaranteed game time, and his chats with RN about how he’d have the system built around him swayed him as well. This time next year he’ll be playing at a higher level anyway, with Dundee United or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, 19QOS19 said: Are San Marino worse than Alloa? He was anonymous against Alloa so I wouldn't hold out he'll rattle them in against San Marino (though I hope he does). Point I'm making is I don't know why you can get so wound up about Dykes (who's been excellent so far) getting a call up but you haven't got such an issue with Shankland, who hasn't proven himself at Dykes's level yet. If we're going down the route of pointing out poor performances in a single game then I'm pretty sure the entire squad can be called in to question. Griffiths, Christie, Forrest and McGregor were rank against us, also a Championship team, yet three of them are (rightly) in the squad and many are lamenting Griffiths' absence. Are San Marino worse than Dunfermline? Edited October 7, 2019 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted October 7, 2019 Share Posted October 7, 2019 If we're going down the route of pointing out poor performances in a single game then I'm pretty sure the entire squad can be called in to question. Griffiths, Christie, Forrest and McGregor were rank against us, also a Championship team, yet three of them are (rightly) in the squad and many are lamenting Griffiths' absence. Are San Marino worse than Dunfermline?The point wasn't to be critical of Shankland's performance. The point was it's ludicrous to say he'll do fine against San Marino, as a matter of fact given he's prone to off days like every other player in the world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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