tree house tam Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 14 hours ago, BigFatTabbyDave said: I used to be a terrible insomniac when I was a teenager. There's about four years that I barely remember due to spending it feeling like a zombie. If you need a solid night's sleep, I can wholeheartedly recommend reading my posts a set of quality earplugs. It's amazing how much ambient noise can affect the quality of your sleep. This. Add in tinnitus and a quiet room to most people is far from it to me. Ear plugs seem to help me achieve at least 4 hours, which is far better than years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 (edited) Pretty poor. I'll go to bed ~23:30, wake up around 3am and then struggle to get back to sleep. The darker mornings are helping a bit now though rather than having sunlight getting around the new so-called black out blinds at 04:30. Strangely I seem to get less sleep if I force myself to go to bed earlier than that. I need a very particular position to sleep though; on my side with one elbow and one knee sticking out at 90 degrees. Edited October 17, 2019 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'WellDel Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Always been a bit of an insomniac , and has never really affected me work-wise etc . 5-6 hrs would normally be a good night , waking a couple of times during that period . Started a new job as a train driver at start of year and back onto shifts for the first time in 10 years . They are really big on you having the appropriate rest , which is fair enough I suppose if you're doing 90mph with 400 passengers on board . Earliest start times are around 4am , so to get the preferred minimum sleep means bed at around 7pm for a 3am rise . Very hard to do , especially in the light summer months but adapting as time goes on . Have found reading for a bit helps me unwind and drift off more easily , it's still the staying asleep part that's the problem . Regularly wake a few times during the night , but find I drift back off more easily than I used to . Shifts are generally 9-10 hrs and can be quite intense with concentration levels required , so job is far more mentally than physically exhausting , so think this is what obviously makes me more tired and has resulted in the slightly improved sleeping . Normally have a lie in on one of my rest days . Don't generally sleep longer , but just read and relax a bit to recharge a little . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 You could always catch a power nap on the longer straight bits. Mind and wake up again for the corners though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 You could always catch a power nap on the longer straight bits. Mind and wake up again for the corners though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: The wife’s snoring means I get approximately 2 hours sleep, 2 hours awake in a permaseethe then another 3 hours kip. People have suggested I use ear plugs, which would be like putting a pillow next to a big rumbly thing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: You could always catch a power nap on the longer straight bits. Mind and wake up again for the corners though. 4 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: You could always catch a power nap on the longer straight bits. Mind and wake up again for the corners though. Do you ever have recurring nightmares? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Always been a bit of an insomniac , and has never really affected me work-wise etc . 5-6 hrs would normally be a good night , waking a couple of times during that period . Started a new job as a train driver at start of year and back onto shifts for the first time in 10 years . They are really big on you having the appropriate rest , which is fair enough I suppose if you're doing 90mph with 400 passengers on board . Earliest start times are around 4am , so to get the preferred minimum sleep means bed at around 7pm for a 3am rise . Very hard to do , especially in the light summer months but adapting as time goes on . Have found reading for a bit helps me unwind and drift off more easily , it's still the staying asleep part that's the problem . Regularly wake a few times during the night , but find I drift back off more easily than I used to . Shifts are generally 9-10 hrs and can be quite intense with concentration levels required , so job is far more mentally than physically exhausting , so think this is what obviously makes me more tired and has resulted in the slightly improved sleeping . Normally have a lie in on one of my rest days . Don't generally sleep longer , but just read and relax a bit to recharge a little .90mph? 9-10 hour jobs? You need a transfer m8 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 On 17/10/2019 at 05:20, 8MileBU said: Not great, find it hard to sleep before about 1am, often 2am and usually back up about 7-7:30. I do find every few weeks or so I have a crash-and-burn and have one night where I zonk out about 9-10pm and have a good 8-9 hours sleep, but rarely do that more than one night in a row. I was caught in this very cycle until I left the construction industry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Scorpio Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Work shifts so have zero pattern. In work til 1130pm last night then back up to start at 6am this morning. Plenty coffees for me today! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 hours ago, 'WellDel said: Always been a bit of an insomniac , and has never really affected me work-wise etc . 5-6 hrs would normally be a good night , waking a couple of times during that period . Started a new job as a train driver at start of year and back onto shifts for the first time in 10 years . They are really big on you having the appropriate rest , which is fair enough I suppose if you're doing 90mph with 400 passengers on board . Earliest start times are around 4am , so to get the preferred minimum sleep means bed at around 7pm for a 3am rise . Very hard to do , especially in the light summer months but adapting as time goes on . Have found reading for a bit helps me unwind and drift off more easily , it's still the staying asleep part that's the problem . Regularly wake a few times during the night , but find I drift back off more easily than I used to . Shifts are generally 9-10 hrs and can be quite intense with concentration levels required , so job is far more mentally than physically exhausting , so think this is what obviously makes me more tired and has resulted in the slightly improved sleeping . Normally have a lie in on one of my rest days . Don't generally sleep longer , but just read and relax a bit to recharge a little . 7 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: You could always catch a power nap on the longer straight bits. Mind and wake up again for the corners though. 7 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: You could always catch a power nap on the longer straight bits. Mind and wake up again for the corners though. You can say that again! 6 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: 90mph? 9-10 hour jobs? You need a transfer m8 Train drivers should be made obsolete. It's always them that cause crashes, they've killed more people than lorry drivers. Trains should be driven by computers, like on the DLR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Train drivers should be made obsolete. It's always them that cause crashes, they've killed more people than lorry drivers. Trains should be driven by computers, like on the DLR. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: What do train drivers do that could not be done by computer, apart from fall asleep? Why are there no drivers on the DLR? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Usually pretty good. Try and go to bed around 10.30 and read a book for a bit. Asleep before midnight. Maybe get 7-8 hours sleep. Recently I seem to spend half the night turning round and round. I think it’s another case of mental wife putting the heavy cover over the already high tog duvet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: 90mph? 9-10 hour jobs? You need a transfer m8 Maybe one day you'll get to drive the big boy train once you've had enough practice on Thomas the Tank Engine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said: Work shifts so have zero pattern. In work til 1130pm last night then back up to start at 6am this morning. Plenty coffees for me today! You're entitled to 11 hours rest between shifts, no? Get your manager telt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 What do train drivers do that could not be done by computer, apart from fall asleep? Why are there no drivers on the DLR? The network isn't even fully electrified yet. It would cost millions, even billions. Given there are very few major incidents caused by driver error it would be a completely futile investment. My response was more to do with your daft comparison to lorry drivers and the inaccurate statement that it's drivers who cause the accidents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, 19QOS19 said: The network isn't even fully electrified yet. It would cost millions, even billions. Given there are very few major incidents caused by driver error it would be a completely futile investment. My response was more to do with your daft comparison to lorry drivers. If they can make autonomous cars, autonomous trains would be a doddle even without full electrification. They don't even need to steer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: The network isn't even fully electrified yet. It would cost millions, even billions. Given there are very few major incidents caused by driver error it would be a completely futile investment. My response was more to do with your daft comparison to lorry drivers and the inaccurate statement that it's drivers who cause the accidents. I was counting prostitutes murdered by lorry drivers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I was counting prostitutes murdered by lorry drivers.Clearly you weren't or it wouldn't even be a close competition [emoji38] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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