Monkey Tennis Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 34 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: The article by English is written to stir controversy, he wants the fans to react even though he knows he's muddying the waters Celtic want consistency in terms of post match officiating, and they probably are correct given morelos did grab christie last december at ibrox and nothing happened, Rangers want consistency on the park and they are probably correct as well given katic was rightly penalised for pulling the shirt for the penalty, however twice in the match a rangers player had their shirt pulled in the box and it wasnt penalised What English does is mixes the two of them together to cause controversy, and he has achieved it The trouble is that nobody who calls for consistency is ever really in pursuit of consistency. Rather, they feel aggrieved about something and mask that childish feeling in the guise of their concern actually being about some wider, greater good. It's pathetically transparent. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 The vandetta the SFA have against Scotland's best player by about 23,420 miles is frankly disgusting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 47 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: The trouble is that nobody who calls for consistency is ever really in pursuit of consistency. Rather, they feel aggrieved about something and mask that childish feeling in the guise of their concern actually being about some wider, greater good. It's pathetically transparent. Does any team put the greater good above themselves? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Does any team put the greater good above themselves? No, probably not. I was simply making the point about the calls for "consistency". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 6 hours ago, kingjoey said: It was a wonderful and accurate article which all fans of all clubs outwith Celtic and Rangers, apart from MJC, will heartily agree with. And of course, I didn’t expect any of the fans of the two clubs involved to do anything but come out with condemnation for it. The only problem these fans, Celtic and Rangers, now have, is to decide which of their clubs Tom English doesn’t like most. Mostly agreeing with you twice in ten minutes has me reaching for the gin bottle. My only minor quibble is that I see little wrong with English's article though a fair few Rangers fans would take issue with me. While our stovies were cooking this evening I spent about an hour trawling through both FF and Kerrydale Street and there's remarkable commonality between both sets of fans: The MSM, The Footballing Authorities and The Refs are conspiring together to throw everything and the kitchen sink to prevent One in a Row or Nine in a Row. Delete as appropriate. The only difference is that the green dummy has been spat a lot more than the blue one in the past 11 days but that doesn't change the narrative much. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: No, probably not. I was simply making the point about the calls for "consistency". The consistency part is still right though, yeah they are looking out for themselves but at least its a valid point for once, both during and post match has been glaring inconsistencies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: The consistency part is still right though, yeah they are looking out for themselves but at least its a valid point for once, both during and post match has been glaring inconsistencies It's not valid in this instance at all, and that's because of its motives. It's not a sincere request for consistency. It's simply a request that they be favoured more than they currently think is the case. Edited January 11, 2020 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: Mostly agreeing with you twice in ten minutes has me reaching for the gin bottle. My only minor quibble is that I see little wrong with English's article though a fair few Rangers fans would take issue with me. While our stovies were cooking this evening I spent about an hour trawling through both FF and Kerrydale Street and there's remarkable commonality between both sets of fans: The MSM, The Footballing Authorities and The Refs are conspiring together to throw everything and the kitchen sink to prevent One in a Row or Nine in a Row. Delete as appropriate. The only difference is that the green dummy has been spat a lot more than the blue one in the past 11 days but that doesn't change the narrative much. Very decent of you to say that. It would certainly appear that Celtic supporters are taking this worse due to losing the last match. I’ve no doubt that the reaction would have been reversed had the result gone the other way. By the way, we had corned beef hash for tea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: The only difference is that the green dummy has been spat a lot more than the blue one in the past 11 days but that doesn't change the narrative much. Wankerish to quote one's own posts but I forgot this difference: Rangers' manager Sellick's manager Edited January 10, 2020 by The_Kincardine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 10, 2020 Author Share Posted January 10, 2020 42 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Very decent of you to say that. It would certainly appear that Celtic supporters are taking this worse due to losing the last match. I’ve no doubt that the reaction would have been reversed had the result gone the other way. By the way, we had corned beef hash for tea. I bet it was delicious. Cannae beat Aberdeen when it comes to making a hash... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: It's not valid in this instance at all, and that's because of its motives. It's not a sincere request for consistency. It's simply a request that they be favoured more that they currently think is the case. Theres nothing sincere about it, but it is still a case for consistency, celtic never once denied what christie done, they just wanted him treated the same as morelos, thats not them wanting more favour, had morelos been banned last time for it we wouldnt be hearing a word about christies one As for rangers, they argued for VAR, and rightly due to not only the offside cup final goal, but the handball goal as well, they havent asked for anything that favours them, just a system to spot errors Every club, especially the OF look out for themselves, but in this case both the OF are correct in their calls, 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: Theres nothing sincere about it, but it is still a case for consistency, celtic never once denied what christie done, they just wanted him treated the same as morelos, thats not them wanting more favour, had morelos been banned last time for it we wouldnt be hearing a word about christies one As for rangers, they argued for VAR, and rightly due to not only the offside cup final goal, but the handball goal as well, they havent asked for anything that favours them, just a system to spot errors Every club, especially the OF look out for themselves, but in this case both the OF are correct in their calls, Mind that time Wanyama got away with this, while Wright got suspended for an apparent thrown elbow you couldnt even properly see, and Celtic didnt make a peep about consistency? It's this shite that annoys "diddy" fans when either OF, and the media, start a multi-week campaign for all our apparent benefits. Edited January 11, 2020 by RandomGuy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 No8 used to do that post sometimes.Can’t say I really noticed. I can remember your absolute meltdown on the cup final thread. Funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Greenlantern said: Can’t say I really noticed. I can remember your absolute meltdown on the cup final thread. Funny. That's a mature and helpful contribution you're bringing to the discussion. Thanks for it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: Theres nothing sincere about it, but it is still a case for consistency, celtic never once denied what christie done, they just wanted him treated the same as morelos, thats not them wanting more favour, had morelos been banned last time for it we wouldnt be hearing a word about christies one As for rangers, they argued for VAR, and rightly due to not only the offside cup final goal, but the handball goal as well, they havent asked for anything that favours them, just a system to spot errors Every club, especially the OF look out for themselves, but in this case both the OF are correct in their calls, Celtic don't want consistency with the sanction given to the Hearts player earlier. Rangers don't want VAR to make things fair. They want instead to highlight isolated injustices that cost them. Neither have quite asked for anything that explicitly favours them, further than everything structural that already does. Even they know they can't actually be seen to request different rules. They are however raising the issue in pursuit of an agenda that provides further advantage. By making lots of noise, they foster the paranoid crap that goes a long way to galvanising their gormless followers. Edited January 11, 2020 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 That's a mature and helpful contribution you're bringing to the discussion. Thanks for it.The meltdown was hilarious though and certainly couldn't be described as a mature or helpful contribution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Romeo said: The meltdown was hilarious though and certainly couldn't be described as a helpful contribution. What was this "meltdown" though? Are you really just referring to when I said there was a distasteful degree of Celtic love In evidence from diddy fans? How foolish, to describe a comment as a meltdown. Use some phrases of your own, rather than just go for mindless P&B staples. They point towards a want of wit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 This thread has serious legs. Going for 55? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Mind that time Wanyama got away with this, while Wright got suspended for an apparent thrown elbow you couldnt even properly see, and Celtic didnt make a peep about consistency? It's this shite that annoys "diddy" fans when either OF, and the media, start a multi-week campaign for all our apparent benefits. Did st johnstone complain at the time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Did st johnstone complain at the time? It never made the papers for 3 weeks after the event if we did. Edited January 11, 2020 by RandomGuy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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