Thane of Cawdor Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This is flouting: This is flaunting: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Is Logan’s Run regarded as essential exercise?It can certainly help develop strong wrists. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 What's been ticking around my head is this. Johnson goes into hospital, and is given some oxygen. He then goes into intensive care. 3 days later he's up and out the door. I seem to recall that the death rate of those going into ICU with coronavirus is said to be about 50%.. Given that a stated aim of the actions of government is to prevent the NHS 'from being overwhelmed', surely there is some kind of deduction in there that... 1. If the ICU death rate from coronavisrus is said to be around 50%, then a huge number of them must have been more or less at half dead by the time they entered hospital.. 2. and following from that, how culpable is NHS 111, and local medics, in not visiting, or refusing to admit people until they are in effect beyond saving ?Local medics arent refusing to visit, there are covid hubs specifically to deal with patients. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 A New York City hospital tested all pregnant women admitted for birth over the recent period - 13% tested positive for the virus, with 87% of those positive cases having no symptoms.https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009316Small sample but interesting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, tamthebam said: Forget the government, wee Jock McTavish going for a bike ride is real reason for the surge of coronavirus. Media gaslighting at its best. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, ICTChris said: A New York City hospital tested all pregnant women admitted for birth over the recent period - 13% tested positive for the virus, with 87% of those positive cases having no symptoms. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2009316 Small sample but interesting. The cynic in me says it doesn't add up, but it does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Zen Archer Esq. said: The cynic in me says it doesn't add up, but it does. I don't like it, but I'll have to go along with it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 Seen a tweet on that hospital survey in New York, apparently those hospitals are very common places for births in the orthodox Jewish community, who have been hit harder by the virus than average. This could skew the figures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Orthodox Jews are notorious anti-vaxxers. Also some NY Jewish sects speak no English and communicate entirely in Yiddish. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 He makes a good point about the amount of ridiculous modeling for covid, even though he’s a self described chainsaw bayonet enthusiast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 We went over this two or three weeks ago, so I'm loathe to repeat myself, but there's extra risk in the event of a breakdown / accident, for one example. Besides which, it's clearly not minimising time spent outside of the home if one person goes along for a recreational drive.The breakdown/accident stuff is probably secondary. Real issue is that no matter how scrupulous @GrannyDanger is with his social distancing in the supermarket, there's a chance he gets contaminated, which he can then pass on to Old Mother Danger in the car. If he goes alone he can thoroughly wash on returning to Danger Towers, reducing the risk of secondary contamination. Like all of this stuff, its marginal risk reduction which adds up at a population level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 For the rest of the lockdown I will be red dotting this shit of if this marshmallow chap. I am that petty and I have nothing better to do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: For the rest of the lockdown I will be red dotting this shit of if this marshmallow chap. I am that petty and I have nothing better to do. He red dots any posts which hint at positivity. It must be quite sad living such a negativity filled life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Forget the government, wee Jock McTavish going for a bike ride is real reason for the surge of coronavirus. Media gaslighting at its best.You do know that's Private Eye, yes?In fairness, one of the hardest careers to work in these days must be satire. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: Apolgies if this has been answered elsewhere If our weekend death numbers are wrong as the people responsible for collating the info don't work weekends, where do the figures we do get come from? It's all down to when the death is officially registered from what I gather. We are now open 7 days in s Scotland but that doesn't mean folk will automatically rush down to have it registered and I'd imagine they might have been closed for the bank holiday ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 9 hours ago, beefybake said: What's been ticking around my head is this. Johnson goes into hospital, and is given some oxygen. He then goes into intensive care. 3 days later he's up and out the door. I seem to recall that the death rate of those going into ICU with coronavirus is said to be about 50%.. Given that a stated aim of the actions of government is to prevent the NHS 'from being overwhelmed', surely there is some kind of deduction in there that... 1. If the ICU death rate from coronavisrus is said to be around 50%, then a huge number of them must have been more or less at half dead by the time they entered hospital.. 2. and following from that, how culpable is NHS 111, and local medics, in not visiting, or refusing to admit people until they are in effect beyond saving ? Johnson is probably a poor example as they admitted that he didn't really need icu but he was put there as a "precaution". Would this be the case for any of us ? No, it certainly wouldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Chernobyl: Ukraine officials call for calm as fire rages Coronavirus: Trump claims 'total' authority to lift lockdown Coronavirus: Indonesian village uses 'ghosts' for distancing patrols Hokkaido declares new state of emergency amid 'second wave' of coronavirus infections World's smallest woman in India stay-at-home virus appeal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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