ICTChris Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 Mark Francois is an idiot but Will Self is also a dreadful man, let’s not lose sight of that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Wait, there are actually guys out there who don't like skinny lassies with big arses ? Apparently some people are into skinny laddies with big arses which is fine, we're a tolerant and forward-thinking community. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I don’t really care if he’s self promoting he is still holding the government to account when most others in the MSM aren’t. He is doing a good job throughout this pandemic. Don't be fooled by this type of questioning. The best questions are pinpoint details that are relevant to a bigger picture. It forces the government to be on top of the important details. Politicians should be actively encouraged to answer more honestly, and not ripped apart from c***s like Morgan for not knowing certain things at that certain moment. As long as there's a follow up the next day to sort out the actual answer. On to the next rumour for the perma-raging Nats then?I don't think I've ever known a poster on here to be so singularly obsessed by one topic. Scottish independence genuinely has you frothing at the mouth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Crùbag said: Can you only half-read what I wrote? Or are you determined to put words in my mouth? No, I don't agree with ScotGov and Leitch on this and haven't done. That said (take note of this part), I can understand their reasoning. The UK approach has been a shambles from day one - I take that as when we knew this had hit Europe. We had two months headstart and did SFA. Boris shaking hands in a hosptial with Covid patients. Is that straight enough for you? What was your beef with Neil Findlay advocating the Scottish government taking a different approach? I don't think being opposed to independence means you are barred from saying that. Forgive me if I've misunderstood you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamski Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: We are all understandably trying to read something into the figures whilst not knowing how accurate they are. I suspect there are far more COVID-19 related deaths than are being reported. There will be, but the official figures should allow us to compare the extent of things between days. My guess is that taking accounting for community cases would inflate the daily figures rather than push the peak back, but of course we really don’t know if that’s the case for sure. Edited April 14, 2020 by Adamski 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Mark Francois is an idiot but Will Self is also a dreadful man, let’s not lose sight of that. On the plus side, we haven't heard much from either of them throughout all this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 On the plus side, we haven't heard much from either of them throughout all thisMaybe they have agreed a truce and are working on a plan to sort it all out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ICTChris said: Maybe they have agreed a truce and are working on a plan to sort it all out. I was hoping more murder-suicide tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Likely a judgement call for the doctor when there are other underlying conditions. Say if a patient dies from heart disease while carrying the virus, which may have speeded up death. If it was listed as a cause of death on the certificate, amongst other causes of death, it will be included in the stats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 I was hoping more murder-suicide tbh.Maybe that’s what needs to happen to fix it.This is getting pretty dark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 That Mark Francois video is old now, but its reappearance has reminded me that I don't think there is a more unpleasant elected politician in Britain. He has been unfortunate in life that he possesses one of those faces that just annoys you and you want to hit, but he doesn't make things any easier for himself does he? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Angusfifer said: If it was listed as a cause of death on the certificate, amongst other causes of death, it will be included in the stats. If it was unknown and untested for, it might explain for the unaccounted for increase in morbidity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 I've always liked wilf self.I can see why folk hate him though, but he's not in the same ball-park of cuntishness as that francois boy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 53 minutes ago, Crùbag said: Sweden's rate of deaths per 100k is worse than the US. Swedish doctors not happy. Where does our rate stand in comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 We are all understandably trying to read something into the figures whilst not knowing how accurate they are. I suspect there are far more COVID-19 related deaths than are being reported.I would agree that the death totals are not accurate, but they will be closer to being right than the reported total number of cases, which will be wrong by a much greater margin due to the lack of testing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 How much of the care home problem I wonder is in the private sector.If owners have been sitting on their arse expecting ppe handouts (I have no evidence) that would be rather foolhardy. Presumably the govt which clearly has the majority of the supply chain, just needs to agree to invoice said establishments if they cant find there own supply.Getting a few private care home owners on the record should be quite illuminating. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: Big rise in non Covid deaths. Are these cases where Covid could be present but this isn’t known or is it caused by medical services being squeezed due to the lockdown. This is partly the danger. We must be top (or bottom I guess) of suicide tables around the world already. There really has to be some discussion around health provisions for older people. It’s horrifically uncomfortable but is using resources for some groups of people to help them stagger on for another few months wise? People’s lives being extended when perhaps dying peacefully might be a much more merciful but difficult choice. Edited April 14, 2020 by Alert Mongoose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, pandarilla said: I've always liked wilf self. I can see why folk hate him though, but he's not in the same ball-park of cuntishness as that francois boy. I saw him live a few years back on a book tour/stand up show. Was a bit surprised to see him not pompous at all and incredibly patient and kind with some truly moronic questions from the audience, think he saves that for c***s on QT and the like. Down to earth and very very funny. (hope I haven't killed him off) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, superbigal said: How much of the care home problem I wonder is in the private sector. If owners have been sitting on their arse expecting ppe handouts (I have no evidence) that would be rather foolhardy. Presumably the govt which clearly has the majority of the supply chain, just needs to agree to invoice said establishments if they cant find there own supply. Getting a few private care home owners on the record should be quite illuminating. Most of the care sector is private in one way or another. Large numbers of businesses will be providing more and better PPE than the NHS, because they are more flexible and can pay more. Larger numbers will be struggling with staffing and therefore agency costs and might not have the clout or resources to procure what they need. A miniscule minority won't give a shit about the staff or residents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MixuFixit said: Is this bit actually true? No. 109th in the world, all the Scandinavian countries are above us, according to the WHO. Scotland on its own is close to the European average. Edited April 14, 2020 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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