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You think our police are over reacting to people, how about this from the USA? I saw it on a legal issues YouTube channel

https://reason.com/2020/04/17/a-teenager-posted-about-her-covid-19-infection-on-instagram-a-deputy-threatened-to-arrest-her-if-she-didnt-delete-it/

This is so fucked up it's not true. Short version - schoolgirl goes to Florida, comes back with what looks like Covid 19, goes to hospital and gets diagnosed, is released, tells her friends on Instagram about it, also tells the school to warn people. She then worsens, gets readmitted, then comes home again. The local sherrifs department then visits, telling her to delete her posts or she and her parents would be arrested for disorderly conduct. Apparently the school hadn't bothered to get back to her, but had complained to the police and basically said she was lying about having it.

Shes now sueing the school, the sheriff, and the officer who threatened her.

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10 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:

Hate when people look for the negatives 😡

I think it's more about dispelling 'they were going to die anyway' trope.

None of it's positive really. But if people stick to some basic advice they are better positioned to get through this.

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55 minutes ago, chocolateankles said:

This place will be like the States you'll have loonballs wanting lockdown released and the Tories will buckle and we'll have another wave of virus and we'll go roon in cricles with more people deed.

I doubt we'll be out waving guns, we'll just drift out of it gradually.

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25 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

I know that, but they reckoned 80% of our deaths (not including care homes) were of people aged 75 or over and those with serious underlying conditions.

If you then calculate that care home deaths are reckoned to add a further 40% to 50% on to the total deaths figure, then it would take a rather large leap to believe that the majority of those dying had at least another 10 years of life left in them. Keeping in mind many were actually terminally ill with various cancers.

I'm not trying to belittle the deaths of anyone, but I just feel that it's utter nonsense to suggest that the majority would have lived for at least another 10 years.

I'd take data analysis over feelings any day of the week.

Care Homes don't specifically deal with terminal cases. That's more hospices or home palliative care.

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2 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Just saw that a woman who died in California on Feb 6th was confirmed to have coronavirus. The first “official” US death from it was Feb 29th. Not beyond the realms of possibility to accept it was in the UK and killing people way before the first official death. 

When you consider that the virus seemingly takes four weeks from catching it, to eventually killing someone, therefore it most probably was in USA in January, so every chance it's been prevalent in the UK since, maybe even early February

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5 minutes ago, jagfox99 said:

I'd take data analysis over feelings any day of the week.

Care Homes don't specifically deal with terminal cases. That's more hospices or home palliative care.

My stats appear conflicting to yours, so who's are correct ?

Is it a Government conspiracy that Bupa are also in on ?

Do we honestly believe that everyone who's died over 75 (accounting for over 80% of the total deaths) would all have lived for at least another 10 years ?

I don't and no amount of facts and figures will convince me otherwise.

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9 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Just saw that a woman who died in California on Feb 6th was confirmed to have coronavirus. The first “official” US death from it was Feb 29th. Not beyond the realms of possibility to accept it was in the UK and killing people way before the first official death. 

We already know there were deaths here before March 5th,the ONS' own data carried 3 deaths onto the beginning of their tables, it's been mentioned in here on numerous occasions. 

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2 hours ago, Jeff Venom said:
18 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said:
120 covid deaths here in Ayrshire. 20 from one care home emoji51.png

Was that the one in Prestwick?

Yeah it is

3 minutes ago, Steven W said:

When you consider that the virus seemingly takes four weeks from catching it, to eventually killing someone, therefore it most probably was in USA in January, so every chance it's been prevalent in the UK since, maybe even early February

Definitely. Especially when you factor in people travelling from China over Christmas and New Year and coming to/or back to the UK in Jan 

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3 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

My stats appear conflicting to yours, so who's are correct ?

Is it a Government conspiracy that Bupa are also in on ?

Do we honestly believe that everyone who's died over 75 (accounting for over 80% of the total deaths) would all have lived for at least another 10 years ?

I don't and no amount of facts and figures will convince me otherwise.

I've no idea how long folk would have lived but 93% having no serious comorbidity certainly doesn't fit with the narrative we've been spun over the last 5 or 6 weeks. 

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11 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

Just saw that a woman who died in California on Feb 6th was confirmed to have coronavirus. The first “official” US death from it was Feb 29th. Not beyond the realms of possibility to accept it was in the UK and killing people way before the first official death. 

I read there was two deaths, both in Santa Clara, California well before the supposed first death. The one on the 6th and another on the 17th.

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I'm not convinced people are any more stupid or selfish than they were in the past. I'm in my fifties and I remember how utterly shite a lot of people were when I was young.
They weren't any less stupid, f**k no. Arguably we're more intelligent, in a balanced sort of way - but we know less shit off by heart so old folk think young folk are stupid. But that's a whole other thing.

Technology and modern life has made us more reliant and less resilient, as a society.

Remember power cuts used to be a thing that happened regularly? Now they never do.

It's a natural thing.

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3 hours ago, MixuFixit said:

Plural of anecdote not being data and all but most of the meltdowns at being told not to do unnecessary things in this thread have come from over 50s. It took a couple of weeks of daily phonecalls from me and my siblings to get my over 70s parents to take it seriously.
 

 

We had a breakdown call out last week.

76yo with breathing difficulties who drove from Scone to Perth so he could buy his paper and rolls from Tesco rather than the shop 5 minutes walk from him, because he fell out with the shop owner a few years ago...

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6 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

We had a breakdown call out last week.

76yo with breathing difficulties who drove from Scone to Perth so he could buy his paper and rolls from Tesco rather than the shop 5 minutes walk from him, because he fell out with the shop owner a few years ago...

At least he has some form of integrity and principle 😬

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