Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[ayrmad]

2 minutes ago, virginton said:

If they're including care home cases in the R0 figures then it absolutely does. 

My last sentence covers that. 

[Wee Willie]

2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said:

Don't do as I do, do as I say.

You must be a politician or a Windsor family member.

1 hour ago, ayrmad said:

Just get ICU capacity up to a level that allows us to get this over in done after one complete easing of lockdown, those in vulnerable groups can without penalty carry on as is if they wish. 

I'm in a vulnerable group so whit dae ye mean?

[ayrmad]

3 minutes ago, Wee Willie said:

You must be a politician or a Windsor family member.

I'm in a vulnerable group so whit dae ye mean?

You can continue shielding if you wish whilst still receiving any financial benefits you're due. 

Edited May 7, 2020 by ayrmad

[Wee Willie]

5 minutes ago, ayrmad said:

You can continue shielding if you wish whilst still receiving any financial benefits you're due. 

Fair do's but my worry is when can I be unshielded ?

[Jacksgranda]

12 minutes ago, Wee Willie said:

You must be a politician or a Windsor family member.

 

You've picked that up wrong.

[ayrmad]

Just now, Wee Willie said:

Fair do's but my worry is when can I be unshielded ?

In all honesty, that will be your call at some point in the future, lockdown or otherwise isn't really your starting point. 

[madwullie]

40 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

This must have been questioned!?? Why spend millions on additional capacity up and down the country and the opportunity to isolate Covid-19 patients, then continue to treat them in facilities already busy caring for those who are vulnerable with other health concerns?
Not only continuing to expose all staff, whilst diverting and diluting other staff resource (read that it was 180 staff to 35 Patients at the 4,000 bed Nightingale Hospital in London) and leave it pretty much empty, eventually mothballing it. This isn’t hindsight for the planners surely?

Read somewhere and no idea if it's true or not, but the new hospitals were designed mainly to cope with people with severe respiratory issues. Unfortunately covid can attack most organs and cause other issues that these hospitals weren't equipped to deal with. 

Again, no idea of the source of this so could be BS

Edited May 7, 2020 by madwullie

[Silverton End]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

Surely it's better to have had it?

Just glad she doesn't have it, as she has underlying health problems.

[Jacksgranda]

48 minutes ago, Snafu said:

The privately run care homes can decide for themselves when its safe for the end of their lockdown. The company that runs the care home my mother locked down long before and without being told to by governments or their experts. They did their own risk assessment after a worker at an Aberdeen care home tested positive and locked down immediately as opportunity for virus ripping through their homes was not worth the risk staying open for visitors. Also its not all about the concern for the residents, if the staff become ill then the remaining staff become less and less able to cope with the demands of giving the residents the quality of life they need to be happy and comfortable.

I doubt anyone in government has ever had to look after someone with dementia, it is hard work and can be overwhelming once it reaches care 24/7 round the clock.

Any 24/7 caring is tough going but I'd imagine looking after a dementia patient would be even more trying.

[Theroadlesstravelled]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52568716

Whacked by someone.

[Wee Willie]

13 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

You've picked that up wrong.

It was a joke but you'll surely agree that don't do as I do, do as I say is something politicians and the Windsor family would say.

[Jacksgranda]

1 minute ago, Wee Willie said:

It was a joke but you'll surely agree that don't do as I do, do as I say is something politicians and the Windsor family would say.

So did my mother...

[Wee Willie]

42 minutes ago, ayrmad said:

Nah, can't agree with that nonsense, I'd be highly offended if my loved ones death was swept under the carpet, luckily for me I've no oldies to worry about now. 

Don't think the situation in care homes will have much bearing on lockdown restrictions. 

You could always adopt me.

I'm hoose-trained and ken how tae beg

18 minutes ago, ayrmad said:

In all honesty, that will be your call at some point in the future, lockdown or otherwise isn't really your starting point. 

That's true so see above.

[Crùbag]

"Britain"

The English fly has been opened and we are openly being pished on.

[Wee Willie]

3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

So did my mother...

Ha! Ha! So did mine

[shahid khan]

On 29/03/2020 at 12:30, shahid khan said:

Pop in and out of this thread, mainly to see Mongoose's pics but just thought I'd add my bit. 

I'm genuinely getting more worried and scared about all this on a daily basis. Not going going to hide that fact. I'm classed as a non essential council worker so I'm in the house away from it all. My wife is normally an outpatient nurse who has been moved onto the icu ward in Inverclyde so on the front line as it were. 

My mother, in her late 50s with asthma, is a ward nurse, with as of last night, had 2 confirmed cases on her ward. She has been risk assessed and deemed to have low risk asthma so she has to work on. 

My sister is also a ward nurse, again dealing with patients on a daily basis. 

Meanwhile I'm in the house with my 4 year old feeling absolutely useless and unable to help 3 folk that mean everything to me. The feeling of having no control over the situation is starting to get me down. This is the calm before the storm and hearing concerns from family over little help and support from management and not to mention lack of/poor ppe is hurting me badly. 

Social media and rolling news channels certainly don't help matters either. I'm not good at all at putting thoughts into words but wanted to get these feelings out. I'm scared folks. 

I'm away to the garden to play football with the wee man, great for clearing the head.

Stay in ur homes people and stay safe everyone.

Take care x 

Today is a good day, After a few bad weeks. Just under 2 weeks ago my mum tested positive for Covid-19. She's asthmatic and we all feared the worst. She's now on the road to recovery after a dreadful few weeks. 

It's the worst she has felt in her life she said and wouldn't wish it on her worst enemy. She reckons she won't be back to normal for around a month as her body took a beating, but glad to report my wee mum is back! 

For folk looking for info on the testing, she got tested at a drive through in Port Glasgow and got her results the next day. She is an NHS employee though. 

Stay safe everyone. 

[carpetmonster]

3 hours ago, virginton said:

Private Eye did a takedown piece on their dodgy setup a few issues back. It doesn't publish it's content online for free but a quick Google provides a rough précis of it here:

https://kmflett.wordpress.com/2020/03/13/private-eyes-analysis-of-crafty-brewers-brewdog/

Best brewdogs - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ellievhall/dog-beer-delivery-coronavirus-brew-dogs

[WhiteRoseKillie]

Is this some kind of mad, right-wing complaint about people not being able to say goodbye to their loved ones because of the lockdown?

Of course it is. I'm well known on here for my mad right-wing views.

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[Granny Danger]

3 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

Of course it is. I'm well known on here for my mad right-wing views.

(Caution: post may contain sarcasm)

^^^^ three steps to the right of Genghis Khan.

(Caution: so might this one)

[Distant Doonhamer]

The point i was making was that we were never close to overwhelming the NHS, not up here anyway.
Based on the article in the Spectator, whether you believe it or not, it would make more sense to either designate particular hospitals or temporary hospitals to accomodate Covid-19 patients, effectively quarantining them, whilst allowing the remaining NHS capacity for all other cases. We know people with health conditions are most at risk. Hospitals are full of people with health conditions.
Why not try moving them to self contained locations?

Some merit in what you say. Much of the increased critical care capacity is in the likes of theatres and theatre recovery areas. I’m retired now but used to work in critical care and can’t help feeling those hospitals busy with Covid cases would quickly become very stretched. There are big logistical issues in what you suggest but that’s not to say they don’t merit discussion.