Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Thereisalight..]

2 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The Scottish Government do not have a covid elimination strategy.  There is no mention of this in any government document as far as I'm aware.

They're sure making a good impression of it 

[ICTChris]

Also, there have very likely been deaths from Covid during the period that many people are saying there have been no Covid deaths in.  The figures produced by the National Records of Scotland advise that the following numbes have died in each week of the outbreak

 

 

[madwullie]

Not sure the education unions had much to do with it. It was Lord McConnell and his bandwagonning that pushed for a full open. 

[Todd_is_God]

12 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Also, there have very likely been deaths from Covid during the period that many people are saying there have been no Covid deaths in.  The figures produced by the National Records of Scotland advise that the following numbes have died in each week of the outbreak

 

 

Well... yes. But those figures, which include presumed cases, still number less than 1 per day over the last 4 weeks, or around 0.64% of all cause mortality during that time.

Out of every 156 deaths in Scotland over the last 4 weeks, at least 155 were *not* caused by Covid-19

It's mindblowing to me that anyone is concerned by those numbers.

Edited August 18, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[effeffsee_the2nd]

11 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

There sure is, but have we all to suffer because of manky kunts? Go to the football, wear a scarf over your face or a mask and take some hand sanitiser incase the phlebs brush past   

^ big team found, Mhanky mhob so they are !!

[Todd_is_God]

14 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The Scottish Government do not have a covid elimination strategy.  There is no mention of this in any government document as far as I'm aware.

When daily cases were in single figures, NS and Devi Sridhar were singing like birds about their wishes for England to follow their lead and join them in their elimination strategy.

They are quiet now, though.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

10 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Also, there have very likely been deaths from Covid during the period that many people are saying there have been no Covid deaths in.  The figures produced by the National Records of Scotland advise that the following numbes have died in each week of the outbreak

 

 

I don't understand this tbh either you die from covid or you don't ?

 

Apart from stopping the NHS from being overwhelmed, the aim of the lockdown must have been to buy time till we figure out what to do about this In the longer term? that longer term is now.  the Scottish government have an election next year which could explain their ultra cautious approach especially after the care home blunders whereas the UK government have a huge majority, almost a full term left to go by which point they hope this will be forgotten about   AND a European union to try and leverage concession from, so long as we don't go back to mid april type numbers they really couldn't give a f**k

[Todd_is_God]

5 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

I don't understand this tbh either you die from covid or you don't ?

In a similar vein, 1 of the 4 NHS England deaths announced today is from the 17th of March.

How can it take 5 months to register a death?!

Edited August 18, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[Todd_is_God]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/school-pupils-warned-to-pull-the-plug-on-house-parties?top&amp&__twitter_impression=true

This is a quite amazing headline. I don't remember the FM explicitly stating that school kids were the ones having house parties, but I imagine some will indeed be having 'empties'

Where is the logic in telling someone they can't have a house party with the same people that they do not have to social distance from earlier that day in school?

Lack of wanting to cry in that article as well.

[D.A.F.C]

What is to stop the numbers increasing if we let everything go back to how it was?
What has changed?
Other countries tried and failed to reopen indoor spaces.
Its about getting a balance and unfortunately some industries will suffer more than others. Its not really the governments fault and being slightly cautious and behind England is a good thing.
We all know deep down that this isnt going away and its highly unlikely anything will change until next year. Will be shocked if crowds are allowed back to football before next march tbh.

[The Moonster]

36 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Anywhere else in the world where a government had such tunnel vision on an unachieveable target no one asked for after moving the goalposts drastically from the start, that had overseen an exams fiasco, that had compounded the economic recession and rise in unemployment by being overly cautious, and that had overseen an outrageous error in moving infected patients into care homes, all within a handful of months, would be out on their arse in the next election.

Yet the SNP look set to make more gains at the next election. Why is that?

 

[mizfit]

Apparently the pupil at Blairgowrie who tested positive was dropped off this morning by their parents.

One of their parents was self isolating after testing positive and was one of the cases linked to the chicken factory in Coupar Angus.

I’d say moronic parenting is more to blame then pupils crowding up.

[welshbairn]

47 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Anywhere else in the world where a government had such tunnel vision on an unachieveable target no one asked for after moving the goalposts drastically from the start, that had overseen an exams fiasco, that had compounded the economic recession and rise in unemployment by being overly cautious, and that had overseen an outrageous error in moving infected patients into care homes, all within a handful of months, would be out on their arse in the next election.

You'd be talking about most governments worldwide then and specifically the UK ones in regards to the exams fiasco. 

Edited August 18, 2020 by welshbairn

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, The Moonster said:

Yet the SNP look set to make more gains at the next election. Why is that?

I hope you understood from my wording of the post that I fully expect it not to happen here.

The SNP are very media savvy, are good at showing everyone how much better they are than Westminster, and people have an appetite for independence.

I want Independence, I will vote yes again if given the opportunity to do so.

I will not vote SNP, however.

[vikingTON]

4 minutes ago, mizfit said:

Apparently the pupil at Blairgowrie who tested positive was dropped off this morning by their parents.

One of their parents was self isolating after testing positive and was one of the cases linked to the chicken factory in Coupar Angus.

I’d say moronic parenting is more to blame then pupils crowding up.

Looking forward then to clownshoes Leitch putting every parent in the country on a Zoom call to bray about their irresponsible breach of 'the rules'.

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, welshbairn said:

You'd be talking about most governments worldwide then and specifically the UK ones in regards the exams fiasco. 

No not really. I don't think any government, apart from NZ, have set their sights on eliminating Covid-19

Most seem happy to accept a trade off between a low number of cases and gradually relaxing restrictions.

I'm completely unaware of how exams outwith the UK were handled so can't comment on that

[MuckleMoo]

https://news.stv.tv/politics/school-pupils-warned-to-pull-the-plug-on-house-parties?top&amp&__twitter_impression=true
This is a quite amazing headline. I don't remember the FM explicitly stating that school kids were the ones having house parties, but I imagine some will indeed be having 'empties'
Where is the logic in telling someone they can't have a house party with the same people that they do not have to social distance from earlier that day in school?
Lack of wanting to cry in that article as well.

I would imagine it's because the school environment is being controlled as much as possible. Hand sanitisers, wiping down of desks and equipment, social distancing where possible. Not ideal but far better than a house full of pished up teenagers

[The Moonster]

1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

I hope you understood from my wording of the post that I fully expect it not to happen here.

The SNP are very media savvy, are good at showing everyone how much better they are than Westminster, and people have an appetite for independence.

I want Independence, I will vote yes again if given the opportunity to do so.

I will not vote SNP, however.

They might be media savvy, but they also have a very relatable leader. In addition, look at the other options the Scottish electorate have - Rennie, Leonard and Carlaw/Ross. Can you tell me you'd have felt better about things if any of those three were in charge throughout this rather than Sturgeon?

[welshbairn]

1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

No not really. I don't think any government, apart from NZ, have set their sights on eliminating Covid-19

Most seem happy to accept a trade off between a low number of cases and gradually relaxing restrictions.

I'm completely unaware of how exams outwith the UK were handled so can't comment on that

Most are doing exactly what Scotland is doing, gradually relaxing restrictions step by step whilst stomping down on local outbreaks. Most also fucked up with care homes.

[Michael W]

58 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The Scottish Government do not have a covid elimination strategy.  There is no mention of this in any government document as far as I'm aware.

Devi Sridhar seems to think otherwise. 'Zero Covid approach'. 

Edited August 18, 2020 by Michael W