DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Falkirk 80/100k, Clacks 85/100k. Stirling around the Scottish average at 145 but when you take out that cluster of 30 or so cases from one outbreak at a Bannockburn care home it drops to a similar level. Should probably be grateful the rate of infection is so low but just ticked off that such a large and stable geography is lumped in Level 3 with the minks in Lanarkshire and Glasgow. Edinburgh, and particularly E Lothian, look to have reasonable cause to be similarly aggrieved. There are going to be a lot of areas where a cluster will drive up the figure - we've got 2 large clusters in Dundee like that - Perth Road (14 cases) and Fintry (19 cases) - the problem is that these clusters just jump about - Fintry was sitting in the 1-4 band just a week ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Clownshoes on being asked on the odds of a full Hampden for the Euros. "By next June we hope to have many, many more people vaccinated in Scotland but remember you've also got to vaccinate Russia, Ukraine, Somalia, Hong Kong. You've got to vaccinate everywhere in order for the world to go back to normal. "So there are too many variables to know if we'll have a full house at Hampden but I'm relatively confident we'll have some kind of crowd by June." It's a nonsense question to ask him, as there's no way he could answer it, but I don't really understand what difference the number of people vaccinated in the countries he names is tbh. If the SG are satisfied that they have vaccinated enough of the people here for life in Scotland to be normal, then it matters not a jot about elsewhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Clownshoes on being asked on the odds of a full Hampden for the Euros. "By next June we hope to have many, many more people vaccinated in Scotland but remember you've also got to vaccinate Russia, Ukraine, Somalia, Hong Kong. You've got to vaccinate everywhere in order for the world to go back to normal. "So there are too many variables to know if we'll have a full house at Hampden but I'm relatively confident we'll have some kind of crowd by June." It's a nonsense question to ask him, as there's no way he could answer it, but I don't really understand what difference the number of people vaccinated in the countries he names is tbh. If the SG are satisfied that they have vaccinated enough of the people here for life in Scotland to be normal, then it matters not a jot about elsewhere. Yes, travel restrictions as they currently exist, airport testing etc are the answer to whats happening elsewhere. Life can be completely normal in Scotland, with zero SD, masks or anything, regardless of whats happening anywhere else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I think it will be better by next summer but nowhere near good enough for full on pub and full crowd mayhem. You would need millions vaccinated in every country and also massive travel restrictions. They should just make all games at hampden with England to play at lesser hampden. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: I think it will be better by next summer but nowhere near good enough for full on pub and full crowd mayhem. You would need millions vaccinated in every country and also massive travel restrictions. They should just make all games at hampden with England to play at lesser hampden. Not being a dick here, but why? If the SG don't feel that certain countries have vaccinated enough, then keep the current quarantine system in place for them. If the SG are happy with the number vaccinated here then vaccine situation in, say, Spain, has absolutely no bearing on Scottish businesses. The whole point of a vaccine is that it protects you. If your population is sufficiently protected, what are you then hiding from? Edited November 14, 2020 by Todd_is_God 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 hours ago, alta-pete said: Falkirk 80/100k, Clacks 85/100k. Stirling around the Scottish average at 145 but when you take out that cluster of 30 or so cases from one outbreak at a Bannockburn care home it drops to a similar level. Should probably be grateful the rate of infection is so low but just ticked off that such a large and stable geography is lumped in Level 3 with the minks in Lanarkshire and Glasgow. Edinburgh, and particularly E Lothian, look to have reasonable cause to be similarly aggrieved. Denmark just shot 17m of theirs. Surely Sturgeon must be looking at this as a strategy ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Not being a dick here, but why? If the SG don't feel that certain countries have vaccinated enough, then keep the current quarantine system in place for them. If the SG are happy with the number vaccinated here then vaccine situation in, say, Spain, has absolutely no bearing on Scottish businesses. The whole point of a vaccine is that it protects you. If your population is sufficiently protected, what are you then hiding from? Theres absolutely no reason we cant have everyone who needs to be vaccinated in this country vaccinated by say april/may with a decent effort. Messing about is the worst thing about this, as soon as we get the supplies just get the army out jabbing everyone that they can get their hands on, never mind all the touchy feely ‘ooh people have a choice’, aye you can have a choice (and it should be the same with the mmr etc too) either you get vaccinated or f**k ye if anything goes wrong with you. All restrictions should be ended as soon as the over 55’s are vaccinated. Edited November 14, 2020 by Inanimate Carbon Rod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Not sure what the “rules” are in regards to takeaways but I was in Chinese tonight and counted 14 people either standing or sitting waiting to get their order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Right so the UK is getting 20 million doses of the 90% effective vaccine by the end of the year, there are approx 2 million people over the age of 55, we should be getting about 1.7 million person doses of the vaccine. So vaccinate the oldest and those with a clinical need and then NHS staff, start in December and vaccinate like a motherfucker and get the restrictions to f**k by March. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Not sure what the “rules” are in regards to takeaways but I was in Chinese tonight and counted 14 people either standing or sitting waiting to get their order. Including you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Right so the UK is getting 20 million doses of the 90% effective vaccine by the end of the year, there are approx 2 million people over the age of 55, we should be getting about 1.7 million person doses of the vaccine. So vaccinate the oldest and those with a clinical need and then NHS staff, start in December and vaccinate like a motherfucker and get the restrictions to f**k by March. If this happens I will ejaculate everywhere in March. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: If this happens I will ejaculate everywhere in March. No you fucking wont. But look anything short of this is absolutely unacceptable. If they cant get the vaccine rolled out by then, then Sturgeon deserves her jotters in May. Too much fucking about and not enough jagging of vaccines. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said: Not sure what the “rules” are in regards to takeaways but I was in Chinese tonight and counted 14 people either standing or sitting waiting to get their order. As an example near where I live, there are 3 in Glasgow Rd Paisley. One has a sign up saying "1 customer in shop at a time", the other two are "2 customers at a time". Admittedly they are all pretty small but yours must be gigantic if there are 14 people in and are all socially distanced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 (edited) On the same half mile stretch of Glasgow Rd there is also a Subway, 2 chippies, a Papa John's, a Greggs, a Mexican street food joint, 4 take away cafes and a kebab shop. I don't think you could get 14 people into any of them. ETA I forgot about the ice cream parlour and Indian restaurant. Edited November 14, 2020 by Arch Stanton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: As an example near where I live, there are 3 in Glasgow Rd Paisley. One has a sign up saying "1 customer in shop at a time", the other two are "2 customers at a time". Admittedly they are all pretty small but yours must be gigantic if there are 14 people in and are all socially distanced. 3 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said: On the same half mile stretch of Glasgow Rd there is also a Subway, 2 chippies, a Papa John's, a Greggs, a Mexican street food joint, 4 take away cafes and a kebab shop. I don't think you could get 14 people into any of them. ETA I forgot about the ice cream parlour and Indian restaurant. I think you might be looking for this gif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I think you might be looking for this gif Yeah, maybe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Not sure what the “rules” are in regards to takeaways but I was in Chinese tonight and counted 14 people either standing or sitting waiting to get their order. Who was getting what? Any snide orders on the go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Theres absolutely no reason we cant have everyone who needs to be vaccinated in this country vaccinated by say april/may with a decent effort. Messing about is the worst thing about this, as soon as we get the supplies just get the army out jabbing everyone that they can get their hands on, never mind all the touchy feely ‘ooh people have a choice’, aye you can have a choice (and it should be the same with the mmr etc too) either you get vaccinated or f**k ye if anything goes wrong with you. All restrictions should be ended as soon as the over 55’s are vaccinated. There’s an interesting ethical debate about vaccinating people who do not want vaccinated, but probably not to be had on a Saturday night. The bit in bold, of course, is not the issue. If those who refuse vaccination were only harming themselves by doing so I don’t think any of us would be too concerned. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I'd actually be in favour of offering three options where the vaccine is concerned. 1) Get the vaccine, 2) get a truncheon to the face, or 3) get to f**k. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Right so the UK is getting 20 million doses of the 90% effective vaccine by the end of the year, there are approx 2 million people over the age of 55, we should be getting about 1.7 million person doses of the vaccine. So vaccinate the oldest and those with a clinical need and then NHS staff, start in December and vaccinate like a motherfucker and get the restrictions to f**k by March. Why should people over the age of 55 be given priority for a vaccine when: i) The government has been telling anyone who'd listen that 'long Covid111!!!!!111' is a serious threat at every age group and ii) Older age groups have screamed about even the slightest thought of changing their routine and shielding in the middle of a pandemic? Which is part of the reason why we've had to set the economy on fire not once but twice in the space of nine months and will be paying for this for generations to come. Seems to me then that once we safeguard health and care workers as well as much more narrowly defined categories of high risk, the rest of the vaccination program should be open to the entire public. If boomers were happy to take their chances in 2020 then they can do so again in 2021 while we lift restrictions regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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