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9 minutes ago, madwullie said:

They said on a number of occasions there was no second wave and that their approach in the summer would mean they come up roses now. They fucked it. 

 

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They said there was no second wave before it began. They didn't say there wouldn't be one.

Again it all comes down to deaths. Herd immunity necessarily involves infections. 

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34 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:

Thank you, Dolly. 🙏👏

Vaccine, vaccine, vaccine, vacciiiiiinnne.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/17/rishi-sunak-refuses-to-say-if-he-will-profit-from-moderna-covid-vaccine

"The chancellor, Rishi Sunak, has refused to disclose whether he will profit from a surge in the share price of the Covid-19 vaccine manufacturer Moderna, one of the biggest investments held by the hedge fund he co-founded before entering parliament."

Absolute f*cking stick-on that Sunak has this company in his blind trust.

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No, I argued it was better than the English version because we didn't outsource it. Though it doesn't matter how effective the app, or how many contacts you trace, you won't catch asymptomatic cases that way.
OK, think I've mixed you up with someone else then. Apologies.
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15 minutes ago, Detournement said:

They said there was no second wave before it began. They didn't say there wouldn't be one.

Again it all comes down to deaths. Herd immunity necessarily involves infections. 

I understand that, but given they're taking action now it looks like the swedes don't think it's worth it anymore

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59 minutes ago, Detournement said:

I don't know. I would guess it's the difference between socialising in Sweden in the summer and the winter. I don't think they claimed there wouldn't be a second wave, the fact that the first wave ended simultaneously with the rest of Europe (also in Belarus) is evidence that restrictions aren't primarily driving the trends.

Every country is back in the shit. It's seasonal now like flu.

The whole thing about this different Swedish approach is being taken massively out of context

Sweden have a constitutional issue where it is very difficult for the govt to claim sweeping powers like you see in other western countries. This meant that there wasn't a mandated closure of the economy but the general effect was that non essential stuff closed, people started commuting to work and enacted social distancing following public campaigns. Google showed that transit data and traveling post lockdown slowed in a virtually identical way to their neighbours.

Call it restrictions, call it advice, it doesn't really matter. By large, they were living under similarish conditions to the rest of Europe.

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18 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

 

 

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Predictable.

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I don't know if it's just a coincidence but the four "red boys" just happen to be at the top of my filter list along with our cricket loving friend from Inverness.

Who knows, maybe they're all one in the same.

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