Guest Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Wasn't going to say it, but aye. You get the feeling that some of these "zero COVID"/"long COVID is even more devastating!" freaks spent their 2020 in much the same way they spent 2019, 2018, 2017 etc. Carry on staying inside and stroking your cats and we'll get on with the mother of all parties. Amen brother, they can all sit in their houses as Scotland become triumphant underdog Euro 2021 champions but that's not my game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, virginton said: The follow-up question asked to every single one of these clownshoes advisors is this: Given that the previous quickest vaccine creation program in the history of science took four years, what measures did you plan to advocate for the UK government in the event of there being no vaccine at all before 2023? If the answer to the above question involves 'indefinite lockdowns' then the interview can be concluded and they can be shunted out of a fire door next to the bins at the back of the studio. Absolutely fucking nobody would be buying that, yet it was an entirely plausible scenario that might have occurred. No economy would ever sustain that Or sustain further lockdown to prevent long covid It will just be something our generation have to live with the possibility of Like others had to live with, rationing or whatever, life cannot always be perfect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1 hour ago, s_dog said: Exactly this, although it feels like its a total pie-in-the-sky wish to have. The whole problem is that even when there are intensive care units that are almost on their knees in some parts of the country, when there are some hospitals (I think Belfast & Wales as well as in South East of England) that have cancelled necessary cancer operations, we are still getting people complaining about lockdowns, and the economy, etc. And I don't understand how you can't see the logic in what these two are saying? They are looking at the likes of Australia and that's the end game, certainly in comparison to the crazy year we've had in the UK. It would mean holidays anywhere other than Scotland are possibly on hold until enough people are vaccinated everywhere, or else your holidays have to be followed by quarantine, but everything else is more normal. If you can get the numbers low enough in the first place, local lockdowns straight away with very strong track & trace, and people paid to stay at home to isolate, that'll keep the numbers low enough so that we don't need the same restrictions in our everyday life. And as long as we don't import cases from abroad by restricting foreign travel, or perhaps letting people go abroad for one week and use the second week of holiday to quarantine when they return, then that'll keep the cases to a minimum. In July in Scotland, if people hadn't went away on holiday to England & Spain where the cases were much higher, our numbers were so low that tightly controlling travel in and out of Scotland could have resulted in things staying the way they were in the summer. Instead, a huge proportion of our cases were linked back to these areas, the numbers grew and we ended up with the tiered lockdowns. The virus has had the chance to mutate to a more transmissible strain as it was always fairly high in parts of England and now we've ended up back in complete lockdown because of it. Hoping the vaccine will stop enough people getting seriously ill & dying, but without knowing it prevents transmission will always keep the virus circulating, and there is the danger we'll likely end up with this continual cycle of restrictions and lockdowns. If we also try to drive the numbers so low at the same time, maybe there is the chance to have much less restrictions and only ever small local lockdowns for a couple of weeks. I agree totally with your post, however it should also be added that these people are public health advisors, that's their remit and it would be a shock if they said anything else. On the other hand we have Economic advisors who's remit is to provide information and guidance on the impact and potential impact of keeping hospitality closed and further impact of closing borders and repercussions for tourism and aviation etc. It's then up to our politicians to weigh up the information provided and make decisions based on that information, as such like her or loathe her, Sridhar is doing and saying exactly what would be expected of any public health advisor whether we agree or not. For what it's worth I don't believe we'll have any sort of holiday blackout this summer, however there will undoubtedly be testing, certification and obviously a much lower virus rate required coupled with a successful and coordinated vaccine roll out before we can get excited about our week in Benidorm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Amen brother, they can all sit in their houses as Scotland become triumphant underdog Euro 2021 champions but that's not my game.Can see it all now. FT whistle and thousands of delirious Scots invade the hallowed Wembley turf carrying trophy winning goalscorer Lyndon Dykes naked off the park as the goalposts get snapped....a week later we are stripped of the title due to fans breaching Covid regulations totally ignoring the wanton vandalism post match ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Can see it all now. FT whistle and thousands of delirious Scots invade the hallowed Wembley turf carrying trophy winning goalscorer Lyndon Dykes naked off the park as the goalposts get snapped....a week later we are stripped of the title due to fans breaching Covid regulations totally ignoring the wanton vandalism post match !Worth it tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1865 cases, 8.7% positivity today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Australia isn't even the end goal for Australia. What a daft thing to say 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 1865 cases, 8.7% positivity todayCases do seem to have steadied and % coming down too, admissions still going up but not massively yet.Looking a bit brighter in comparison to down south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aladdin Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 As far as I understood the vaccine didn't prevent transmission of COVID, rather it allowed the body to quickly fight it resulting in no or mild symptoms. That can be contrasted with the smallpox vaccine which was successful in almost blocking transmission entirely which allowed the disease to be eradicated.Provided the vast majority of vulnerable groups can be vaccinated, once this is done then there is no argument for a significant restrictions. We don't aim for a zero flu outcome given how widespread it is and how quickly it mutates so I fail to see how a zero COVID strategy is a legitimate aim until a vaccine that prevents transmission is developed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, renton said: 1865 cases, 8.7% positivity today 1 minute ago, MP_MFC said: Cases do seem to have steadied and % coming down too, admissions still going up but not massively yet. Looking a bit brighter in comparison to down south. 109 in ICU, up from 102. 1596 in hospital, up from 1530. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 57 minutes ago, Empty It said: Amen brother, they can all sit in their houses as Scotland become triumphant underdog Euro 2021 champions but that's not my game. Can see it all now. FT whistle and thousands of delirious Scots invade the hallowed Wembley turf carrying trophy winning goalscorer Lyndon Dykes naked off the park as the goalposts get snapped....a week later we are stripped of the title due to fans breaching Covid regulations totally ignoring the wanton vandalism post match ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: 109 in ICU, up from 102. 1596 in hospital, up from 1530. Don’t hospital admissions lag daily cases and therefore we should see a stabilisation of these shortly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just now, Alert Mongoose said: Don’t hospital admissions lag daily cases and therefore we should see a stabilisation of these shortly. Yes they do. As you and others have suggested some hopeful signs. Still a precarious position though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Thereisalight.. said: I don’t know if anybody read the story about the two young women from Leicestershire who were finned by a mob heavy police force. They drove 5 miles in their own cars to go a socially distanced walk in a quite area. They stayed 2 metres apart and were confronted by a police van and 2 cars. The women had coffee cups they’d brought from home, they were told this was classed as a “picnic” (despite the fact they weren’t sitting down drinking them) and fined £200 each. If you think this is acceptable then you’re part of the problem. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Aye but it's entertaining as it is frustrating tbh. My ex's old man was a staunch *** (apart from actually going to games) who wouldn't shop at Asda, or ever get into a green car. I'm not quite what he thought would happen to him in either of those situations. [emoji38]Wasn't there an asda in weegie land that changed its green sign to blue because the *** fuckwits were attacking it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 [emoji38]Wasn't there an asda in weegie land that changed its green sign to blue because the *** fuckwits were attacking it?Thats a myth. A widely believed myth. Super stauch larkhall or larkyderry doesn’t have an asda. However subway has a black background instead of the usual green one and there used to be w moss pharmacy which changed its sign from green to blue. It’s bigot central tbf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Lizzie and the other one vaccinated. Gammon media should be good 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP_MFC Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Thats a myth. A widely believed myth. Super stauch larkhall or larkyderry doesn’t have an asda. However subway has a black background instead of the usual green one and there used to be w moss pharmacy which changed its sign from green to blue. It’s bigot central tbfDon't forget the green traffic lights having a grill over them. There's an asda there now but I believe the colour scheme is its normal self. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Actual adults having a problem with a colour [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]I work with a guy who won't sit on green seats etc. He is in his 40s. Minter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Thats a myth. A widely believed myth. Super stauch larkhall or larkyderry doesn’t have an asda. However subway has a black background instead of the usual green one and there used to be w moss pharmacy which changed its sign from green to blue. It’s bigot central tbf Larkhall does have an Asda but it is very green. As you say the subway is black though. All the green traffic lights have cages over them in Larkhall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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