Steven W Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 56 minutes ago, Elixir said: Pandemics do end, though. I have moments when I wonder if this will actually. We probably all do in fairness. However, whilst it will in all probability end one day, I'm coming round to thinking this could be a 5 - 10 year thing. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Steven W said: I have moments when I wonder if this will actually. We probably all do in fairness. However, whilst it will in all probability end one day, I'm coming round to thinking this could be a 5 - 10 year thing. If you are talking about achieving the "zero covid" fantasy, then you might be right. In terms of having restrictions on peoples lives, and strangling economies in the process, then no. It's unsustainable, and in literally nobody's best interest. People will likely be dying from it in years to come, but at a fraction of the rate they are just now, to the point that it will fall under the same "acceptable risk" level as pretty much everything else. Edited January 15, 2021 by Todd_is_God 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Elixir said: As much as I love to travel, my biggest worry with border closures is the affect it has on my partner and her family abroad. And there will be hundreds of thousands of people for which this is a constant worry. When will they see each other again? You can still travel for essential purposes...but on the way back you will need proof of a negative test and 10 days of isolation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Aye tbf I've made a c**t of that.You stitched yourself up good and proper there.[emoji16] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 If it’s any kind of indication, my jag is now booked in for next week at Ayr Hospital so things are now branching out. I think the government document said my work would be completed the first week in February. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Dundee FC .. a small business [emoji846] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Listening to Cringe Freelunch giving out the figures pretty much now confirms, that they are failing miserably administering vaccines. An absolute shambles but not surprising given the ineptitude of these people.[emoji849] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 47 minutes ago, WATTOO said: In fairness I've got a vested interest here as have a Golf holiday booked to Catalonia in May !! As I understand it you can go play golf abroad right now. I believe all you have to do is explain it’s “elite” and everything is OK. Don’t worry, even though it will be an elite golf break you are still permitted to sit around the pool drinking lager with your mates. I’ve attached a picture for you to stick on your suitcase to avoid any awkward questions at the airport. Edited January 15, 2021 by Shadow Play 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, doulikefish said: You can still travel for essential purposes...but on the way back you will need proof of a negative test and 10 days of isolation That's the thing, she's at university and is also working part-time in a supermarket meanwhile, so can't really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tourette Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I don't know how to reason with people like you I really don't. There's the actual prime minister going live on TV to say we are pursuing herd immunity, and that's not enough for you. You're a lost cause.The UK government are planning to vaccinate over 50% of the population. Is that not the definition “pursuing herd immunity”? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, madwullie said: I was addressing the point you were making that mutations happen all the time and don't get reported, implying these are being reported for nefarious purposes. I was sharing the info (not that I even almost understand the nitty gritty) that there is actual science behind the concerns, that goes beyond "viruses mutate all the time lol" in that these variants have multiple mutations across concerning spikes (limits of my knowledge here) and epidemogists are genuinely concerned that they will increase infectiousness or severity of disease. They currently don't seem to be too concerned that vaccines will not be effective against them, but that doesn't mean in the meantime before the vaccination process is complete that it's not, globally, a genuine cause for concern. I didn't mention anything about the epidemic going on forever. I wasn't having a go at you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 48 minutes ago, Erih Shtrep said: Boris boosting about vaccinating less than 40% of care home residents while Scotland has vaccinated 80-90% of residents. He was insistent Pfizer couldn't be used in care homes for logistical reasons and the SG just got on with the job. I’ve got a horrible feeling that you’re being serious here. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 53 minutes ago, Erih Shtrep said: Boris boosting about vaccinating less than 40% of care home residents while Scotland has vaccinated 80-90% of residents. He was insistent Pfizer couldn't be used in care homes for logistical reasons and the SG just got on with the job. You can’t post that sort of thing on here ffs. Heads will explode. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Elixir said: I wasn't having a go at you. Sorry man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mr Tourette said: The UK government are planning to vaccinate over 50% of the population. Is that not the definition “pursuing herd immunity”? shut up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 10 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: I’ve got a horrible feeling that you’re being serious here. Go on then 'Minter boy' how's it wrong. 5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: You can’t post that sort of thing on here ffs. Heads will explode. Unsurprising to see Glen getting bent-out-of-shape at any Scottish v rUK success story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10menwent2mow Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 In fairness I've got a vested interest here as have a Golf holiday booked to Catalonia in May !!I've got a three day golf break booked for Aviemore in June, I'd be happy to get that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, WATTOO said: In fairness I've got a vested interest here as have a Golf holiday booked to Catalonia in May !! If you are going as an elite golfer then you'll need a caddy. 1 hour ago, Carnoustie Young Guvnor said: I would imagine that's touch and go but fingers crossed for you. Looks like you may have a volunteer. I am sure they are very experienced. Edited January 15, 2021 by strichener 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, madwullie said: Sorry man. There's no hard feelings. My comment probably did come across a bit shady. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Brannigan Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Could the private companies not buy stock directly from the government? Which would then be sold to people who are willing, keeping it within the UK economy. The vulnerable and financially constrained would still get their NHS jag of course. Quite rightly, pharmaceutical companies and the like shouldn't be allowed to sweep up the supply. People who have health insurance through their companies could also get vaccinated through those means since it's done privately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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