Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

3 minutes ago, Jambomo said:

I got an e-mail from the hairdresser basically saying they expect to be re-opening early March. Was this said in one of the briefings or are they being optimistic?

I'll go for optimistic. 

It's an interesting scenario at the moment. The Tories are far more push and pull with restrictions than an (ironically) hyper-conservative Scottish government. The political pressure to lift lockdown weighs heavier on Johnson (who is naturally opposed to restrictions) than it does on Sturgeon, who is naturally cautious in nature. 

Because of that, it would seem likely that it'll be Westminster who will be the first to announce an easing of lockdown. That will heap enormous pressure on Sturgeon to do the same in Scotland, especially when cases, and hospitalisation and death rates are well below the rest of the UK.

I don't know if we'll all be getting haircuts at the beginning of March. My gut feeling says that we're probably going to be stuck with a full lockdown for another 5 or 6 weeks. 

I desperately hope I'm wrong, but it seems that it's the zero covid fanatics who have the First Ministers ear just now, so she's quite happy to keep on quoting them as a reason to keep lockdown in place. 

[Todd_is_God]

1 minute ago, Bob Mahelp said:

I'll go for optimistic. 

It's an interesting scenario at the moment. The Tories are far more push and pull with restrictions than an (ironically) hyper-conservative Scottish government. The political pressure to lift lockdown weighs heavier on Johnson (who is naturally opposed to restrictions) than it does on Sturgeon, who is naturally cautious in nature. 

Because of that, it would seem likely that it'll be Westminster who will be the first to announce an easing of lockdown. That will heap enormous pressure on Sturgeon to do the same in Scotland, especially when cases, and hospitalisation and death rates are well below the rest of the UK.

I don't know if we'll all be getting haircuts at the beginning of March. My gut feeling says that we're probably going to be stuck with a full lockdown for another 5 or 6 weeks. 

I desperately hope I'm wrong, but it seems that it's the zero covid fanatics who have the First Ministers ear just now, so she's quite happy to keep on quoting them as a reason to keep lockdown in place. 

The removal of the furlough scheme (whether that is at the end of April or whenever) will ultimately be what gives NS a shake and pops her #ZeroCovid bubble.

It's easier to keep restrictions in place when someone else is essentially paying for them.

[MONKMAN]

Rezpec

The epitome of gammon stupidity - stick old Tom’s face on a brand of trainers founded by Adi Dassler, member of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

[ayrmad]

7 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

The removal of the furlough scheme (whether that is at the end of April or whenever) will ultimately be what gives NS a shake and pops her #ZeroCovid bubble.

It's easier to keep restrictions in place when someone else is essentially paying for them.

When did Westminster start paying our bills. 

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

The removal of the furlough scheme (whether that is at the end of April or whenever) will ultimately be what gives NS a shake and pops her #ZeroCovid bubble.
It's easier to keep restrictions in place when someone else is essentially paying for them.

I must have missed Sunak announcing that Scottish taxpayers money wouldn't be contributing towards furlough. Very generous of him.

[Granny Danger]

14 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

The removal of the furlough scheme (whether that is at the end of April or whenever) will ultimately be what gives NS a shake and pops her #ZeroCovid bubble.

It's easier to keep restrictions in place when someone else is essentially paying for them.

We, the Scottish people, are paying for the furlough scheme you fucking halfwit.

ETA beaten to it by Ayrmad and the Sheriff.

Edited February 5, 2021 by Granny Danger

[Granny Danger]

6 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

 

The epitome of gammon stupidity - stick old Tom’s face on a brand of trainers founded by Adi Dassler, member of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

 

It’s not the only irony though.  He fought for a land fit for heroes and ends up being appropriated by a right wing government who don’t give a shit about the ordinary person.

[renton]

2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

We, the Scottish people, are paying for the furlough scheme you fucking halfwit.

ETA beaten to it by Ayrmad and the Sheriff.

The salient point being that Westminster controls the timing of furlough. When they stop it, ScotGov will have limited options to continue.

[Granny Danger]

Just now, renton said:

The salient point being that Westminster controls the timing of furlough. When they stop it, ScotGov will have limited options to continue.

You are of course correct but that was not my take on the point that was being made.  The poster in question is totally anti SG and Sturgeon in particular and that’s what drives the nonsense he posts.

[Elixir]

3 minutes ago, renton said:

The salient point being that Westminster controls the timing of furlough. When they stop it, ScotGov will have limited options to continue.

[Dons_1988]

Always good when powers that Westminster refuse to devolve are weaponised against the SG for not being able to do without her majesty's treasury.

[MONKMAN]

2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

It’s not the only irony though.  He fought for a land fit for heroes and ends up being appropriated by a right wing government who don’t give a shit about the ordinary person.

Saying he fought is pushing it a bit, he spent the war teaching members of the British Indian army how to ride motorbikes. 

[Granny Danger]

Just now, MONKMAN said:

Saying he fought is pushing it a bit, he spent the war teaching members of the British Indian army how to ride motorbikes. 

They also serve who only kickstand and wait.

[ICTChris]

Despite their fantastic success in vaccinating a very high number of their citizens, Israel is still suffering high rates of death.

 

 

[Granny Danger]

Just now, ICTChris said:

Despite their fantastic success in vaccinating a very high number of their citizens, Israel is still suffering high rates of death.

 

 

And ignoring the welfare of the Palestinians whose life they control.  Let’s never forget that.

[ayrmad]

1 minute ago, ICTChris said:

Despite their fantastic success in vaccinating a very high number of their citizens, Israel is still suffering high rates of death.

 

 

Hopefully makes Nicola kickback the date for schools. 

[tamthebam]

4 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

Saying he fought is pushing it a bit, he spent the war teaching members of the British Indian army how to ride motorbikes. 

"Ah the war. I fought the Japs with Birmingham Small Arms* and enjoyed a great Triumph in 1945..."

I keep getting a picture of Captain Tom being like Captain Ashwood in "It ain't half hot, Mum" 

(*What BSA stood for, motorbike fans.)

[Sergeant Wilson]

21 minutes ago, MONKMAN said:

 

The epitome of gammon stupidity - stick old Tom’s face on a brand of trainers founded by Adi Dassler, member of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

 

Not really, we're all just accidents of birth.. He landed British. He'd have been goose stepping through Paris with the rest of them if he'd been German.

[Elixir]

The success of the vaccination program won't be fully apparent until it has been fully rolled out and taken up by a high percentage of the entire population, which it will, and after this winter wave subsides.

[ICTChris]

I don't know much about Captain Moore but it really seems like people are projecting onto him whatever they do or don't like in the world, it's really fascinating.