Honest_Man#1 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: It's an extraordinary lack of understanding. You'd imagine someone who by their own admission wrongly voted for Brexit, would learn from their previous mistakes and have a bit more empathy and open-mindedness to the current situation we find ourselves in and the effect it's having on people but it seems some are just doomed to making the same mistakes over and over. There’s a few posters like GD and more recently ayrmad who are like this. Whether they are incapable of empathy, or do understand but actively ignore it, is the real question. Either way, it’s been eye-opening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 12 hours ago, Erih Shtrep said: My parents both received the AZ vaccine yesterday. Mum was fine but my dad had a wee reaction with muscle pains and shivers that kept him up overnight. He's fine now and has ordered a new 4 slice toaster from Amazon which will be delivered on Monday. My wife doesn't need vaccinated to do that sort of thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: All of us have been affected by this, all of us. The year out of my life is probably a bigger proportion of my remaining years than many on here. I’m not able to see my granddaughter, can’t go on holiday (my biggest pleasure in life), can’t go to the football (maybe a blessing in disguise), having to struggle with the impact on my business (that’s not fun). The thing is I’m not constantly bitching and moaning about it and looking for sympathy because I accept that it’s an unprecedented situation. And yet in spite of all this, you dismiss people, (including people who have been long-standing supporters of the SNP and Scottish Government) who are quite reasonably angry at the prospect of a fully vaccinated nation being under continued restrictions beyond the programme's rollout, as 'bitchers and moaners' Do you understand how counterintuitive this is (as well as harmful to yourself) that you'd sooner suffer all of the hardships you've described than ever question the motives or capabilities of the political party you support? I genuinely struggle to comprehend that. Edited February 7, 2021 by djchapsticks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: All of us have been affected by this, all of us. The year out of my life is probably a bigger proportion of my remaining years than many on here. I’m not able to see my granddaughter, can’t go on holiday (my biggest pleasure in life), can’t go to the football (maybe a blessing in disguise), having to struggle with the impact on my business (that’s not fun). The thing is I’m not constantly bitching and moaning about it and looking for sympathy because I accept that it’s an unprecedented situation. "I would like answers regarding why a procession of Scotgov ministers and advisers are foreshadowing the continuation of restrictions that impact my business/livelihood/physical health/mental health/education/education of my children/ability to see my children/parents/grandparents/friends/ability to travel abroad et cetera, far beyond the stated aim of protecting the NHS, with numerous highly effective vaccines in place, for an as yet undetermined period of time with no mention of criteria for, or even possibility of, their removal" Is equal to "constantly bitching and moaning about it and looking for sympathy" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Better than the bitching and whining “Boo hoo, poor me, I can’t go to the pub. Life is so cruel” type patter. Yes, because every single one of people wanting pubs to open are alkies choking on a pint and not one of the thousands of folk employed in the hospitality trade (and the thousands more employed in their supply chains). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I’ve read a few people hypothesise that the Kent strain came from medical experiments on Covid patients. I don’t mean batshit conspiracy theorists but one Twitter account in particular who I find very reliable. [/url] A paper has been written on this, positing that the strain came due to plasma treatments. Don't know about the experiment part but I thought it was already known that the Kent variant was traced back to two patients in a hospital? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: All of us have been affected by this, all of us. The year out of my life is probably a bigger proportion of my remaining years than many on here. I’m not able to see my granddaughter, can’t go on holiday (my biggest pleasure in life), can’t go to the football (maybe a blessing in disguise), having to struggle with the impact on my business (that’s not fun). The thing is I’m not constantly bitching and moaning about it and looking for sympathy because I accept that it’s an unprecedented situation. Yep, one of my friends is down 5 figures a week, thankfully he looks for solutions rather than be negative. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Yep, one of my friends is down 5 figures a week, thankfully he looks for solutions rather than be negative. never has this GIF been more apt: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: There’s a few posters like GD and more recently ayrmad who are like this. Whether they are incapable of empathy, or do understand but actively ignore it, is the real question. Either way, it’s been eye-opening. I find it eye-opening that folk can only see their way of dealing with negative situations, there is not one single benefit for me of wallowing over dealing with it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 35 minutes ago, ICTChris said: I’ve read a few people hypothesise that the Kent strain came from medical experiments on Covid patients. I don’t mean batshit conspiracy theorists but one Twitter account in particular who I find very reliable. A paper has been written on this, positing that the strain came due to plasma treatments. My MiL got covalescent plasma as part of a trial when she had it in, I think, October-ish. For a few weeks at least it was standard in Lanarkshire anyway 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: never has this GIF been more apt: That's how I feel when folk are moaning about watching wee Johnny all week or not getting out for a pint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Side one: You just want to go to the pub/holiday and don't care if you kill a granny. Side two: you want the entire world to be locked down forever because you're scared of a virus. In reality, no-one actually holds either of these positions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Granny Danger said: “I’ll vote Tory if it allows me to go for a pint” would be an astounding position for most posters. But, lone behold, it’s about what I’d expect from ‘the main players’ on here. You edited it and still left this! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: True..... I I-I-I I... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, madwullie said: Side one: You just want to go to the pub/holiday and don't care if you kill a granny. Side two: you want the entire world to be locked down forever because you're scared of a virus. In reality, no-one actually holds either of these positions. I don't think GD or me want restrictions anymore than anyone else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: If you’re really interested (which I doubt) pop over to the politics thread where you will see my misplaced reasoning and my many retractions of that position. Though you’re probably more interested in scoring cheap points/garnering greenies. Just ignore him ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Yep, one of my friends is down 5 figures a week, thankfully he looks for solutions rather than be negative. How many of them are before the decimal point? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 Side one: You just want to go to the pub/holiday and don't care if you kill a granny. Side two: you want the entire world to be locked down forever because you're scared of a virus. In reality, no-one actually holds either of these positions. What is the Scottish governments idea then? They don’t sound at all convincing that there’s any light at the end of the tunnel, all they are doing with their talk is giving rise to peoples anxieties that we’re not getting out of this in our lifetime 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 23 minutes ago, ayrmad said: Yep, one of my friends is down 5 figures a week, thankfully he looks for solutions rather than be negative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: will either, be able to sufficiently hold my nose to vote SNP, OR I won't vote at all due to a lack of credible alternative and a refusal to vote FOR anything that would hinder independence. Spoil your ballot, the party officials are the count see them and if enough people were in you position it would get through, say vote for the SNP and then write over the ballot what you think of their handling of the pandemic, obviously not chapter and verse but a end lockdown or end restrictions etc etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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