madwullie Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) Leitch as an advisor has spoken about zero covid, an anathema to many on here, so everything he and sridhar says is deconstructed and torn apart and ridiculed in minute details. Many errors made in Scotland are attributed to them. Contrast with Whitty, who, as the actual cmo of England has technically been in charge of their (equally) absolutely atrocious response to the pandemic, regularly making foot in the mouth comments, wildly incorrect predictions etc. But because he once specifically said zero covid was unachievable, he is regularly given the benefit of the doubt, and even lauded as someone we should aspire to employ as cmo because qualifications, despite making as many public f**k ups as Leitch and co (dentist lol) and literally being in charge of their abysmal response to the pandemic. Edited March 20, 2021 by madwullie 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Leitch as an advisor has spoken about zero covid, an anathema to many on here, so everything he and sridhar says is deconstructed and torn apart and ridiculed in minute details. Many errors made in Scotland are attributed to them. Contrast with Whitty, who, as the actual cmo of England has technically been in charge of their (equally) absolutely atrocious response to the pandemic, regularly making foot in the mouth comments, wildly incorrect predictions etc. But because he once specifically said zero covid was unachievable, he is regularly given the benefit of the doubt, and even lauded as someone we should aspire to employ as cmo because qualifications, despite making as many public f**k ups as Leitch and co (dentist lol) and literally being in charge of their abysmal response to the pandemic. Youv probably boiled it all down a bit too far there m8. Anyway, Jason Leitch has slowly but surely, over the period of the pandemic, become a condescending, sanctimonious w****r. Devi Sridhar effectively told people who were suffering mentally through the most trying period of time in living memory to suck it up. Both of them can go and f**k themselves. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Youv probably boiled it all down a bit too far there m8. Anyway, Jason Leitch has slowly but surely, over the period of the pandemic, become a condescending, sanctimonious w****r. Devi Sridhar effectively told people who were suffering mentally through the most trying period of time in living memory to suck it up. Both of them can go and f**k themselves. I dunno, I think it's a pretty fair summation. TBF I did think for a while the the stidhar stuff was mainly misogyny due to the extreme nature of the reaction against her. But then Leitch is (now) held equally in contempt so I'm not so sure. Edit: a poster literally gave the zero covid stuff as the reason a few pages back and wished we had whitty because he doesn't think it's a achievable. Edited March 20, 2021 by madwullie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 23 minutes ago, madwullie said: Leitch as an advisor has spoken about zero covid, an anathema to many on here, so everything he and sridhar says is deconstructed and torn apart and ridiculed in minute details. Many errors made in Scotland are attributed to them. Contrast with Whitty, who, as the actual cmo of England has technically been in charge of their (equally) absolutely atrocious response to the pandemic, regularly making foot in the mouth comments, wildly incorrect predictions etc. But because he once specifically said zero covid was unachievable, he is regularly given the benefit of the doubt, and even lauded as someone we should aspire to employ as cmo because qualifications, despite making as many public f**k ups as Leitch and co (dentist lol) and literally being in charge of their abysmal response to the pandemic. Throw in the fact that Leitch has an attachment to some church, and hanging very quickly becomes far too good for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Leitch appeals to that mid 40s to mid 60s Scottish middle class male bracket who think simultaneously - They are worldly wise due to their "life experience" - They could handle themselves in a fight for some reason - They are "straight talkers" - Everyone under the age of 35 with an opinion has ideas above their station - Think they're some sort of working class hero done good despite having very comfortable upbringings Leitch is the embodiment of that lot. Do you find that such absurd, generalising furthers your cause, such as it is? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 hours ago, David W said: For me, he's never quite managed to find the boundary between trying to be popular and acting like a politician. I think that a year ago he made a lot of predictions and claims that didn't ever come true ("write it in pencil, don't write it in pen") and he's now gone completely the other way. There's no doubt value in someone who can speak to the Off the Ball demographic, or who can break everything down into analogies, but I genuinely now don't give much credence to anything he says as he's tripped up so many times. The other guy who does the briefings (Gregor something) is a lot more steady. Doesn't over-promise, provides knowledge but doesn't dilute it with his own opinions. That's all pretty fair. I'm not a fan myself. I'm a bit sick of the sight of him and he's demonstrably got things wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Baz Chuckle said: I didn’t take the first lockdown seriously at all but I know that other folk did. I’ve taken this lockdown even less seriously- if that’s possible. Just back from a night out at friends house will be out again tomorrow night as I have been every weekend since lockdown began my conscience is clear - indeed I’m improving the situation 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: He's a patronising twat and you seem to take great delight in being as snide and smug on here. Get over yourself. I apologise. It's just so hard not to feel smug when you read some of the rubbish on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Andre Drazen said: Right. So who's this fucking weirdo? Chairman Mao 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Just now, Day of the Lords said: Chairman Mao Jeremiah Cole was my thoughts, are they the same? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 8 hours ago, TheScarf said: There’s nothing juvenile or pish about it I’m afraid. It’s the popular consensus on here, whether you like it or not. That is truly laughable. Whether your view reflects a consensus on here is not of any interest or concern. Why would it be? You really do want this place to be one of those echo chamber things we hear about, don't you? It absolutely is juvenile to characterise Leitch as "a dentist who doesn't know what he's talking about". Take issue with what he says by all means, but attacks of that nature just make you look foolish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Jeremiah Cole was my thoughts, are they the same? I'm fairly sure they are all the same attention-seeking welt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: Leitch appeals to that mid 40s to mid 60s Scottish middle class male bracket who think simultaneously - They are worldly wise due to their "life experience" - They could handle themselves in a fight for some reason - They are "straight talkers" - Everyone under the age of 35 with an opinion has ideas above their station - Think they're some sort of working class hero done good despite having very comfortable upbringings Leitch is the embodiment of that lot. Do you want to take this ootside son? Edited March 20, 2021 by Sergeant Wilson 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 7 hours ago, Rob1885 said: Situation on the continent as a whole looks quite bleak by all accounts. The vaccines really are the way out of this and I'm surprised how much of a f**k up many countries have made of starting it. Yup, and it looks like Boris will come out of it smelling of roses due to his vaccines gamble - whooodathunk that 3 months ago? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: That is truly laughable. Whether your view reflects a consensus on here is not of any interest or concern. Why would it be? You really do want this place to be one of those echo chamber things we hear about, don't you? It absolutely is juvenile to characterise Leitch as "a dentist who doesn't know what he's talking about". Take issue with what he says by all means, but attacks of that nature just make you look foolish. Oh dear. His daft comments about mask wearing and zero covid have been blown out of the water numerous times. Almost everything that comes out of his mouth is proven to be wrong, regardless of how good he is at actually talking to a camera. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Oh dear. His daft comments about mask wearing and zero covid have been blown out of the water numerous times. Almost everything that comes out of his mouth is proven to be wrong, regardless of how good he is at actually talking to a camera. Well I'd humbly suggest that despite having got things wrong, as has already been acknowledged, for you to say that "he doesn't know what he's talking about" is rather silly. He will have a greater knowledge of such matters than you or I. I'll back down and admit to having this wrong if you too have a Masters (or above) in this stuff from Harvard. Otherwise, I'll just have a chuckle over the suggestion on here that it's my stance that's the smug one. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) My primary 2 age son isolating again. Second time since his return to school in late February. (And third since September). Getting a little bit beyond a joke now. When he returns again in 10 days there's nothing to stop it happening again. And again etc .. An age group who are A) not going to be receiving a vaccine, B) are only at a tiny risk of falling ill and C) supposedly almost unable to transmit. He had a test last night, which will no doubt return negative, yet is still stuck in the house 10 days again irrespective of the result. Think we need to get to the point (and soon) where, if contacted by Test & Protect, upon receipt of a negative test result you're allowed to go back about your business. Edited March 20, 2021 by Steven W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: He will have a greater knowledge of such matters than you or I. It's quite a low bar for the National Clinical Director to only need to be more qualified than a couple of posters in The General Nonsense section of The Pie and Bovril Forum. Edited March 20, 2021 by Marshmallo 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: It's quite a low bar for the National Clinical Director to only need to be more qualified than a couple of posters in The General Nonsense section of The Pie and Bovril Forum. Agreed. That's why I'd imagine he'd clear it with something to spare. However, I'm not attempting to characterise him as a colossus in his field. I'm merely challenging the assertion from one of those posters in this section of the forum that Leitch "doesn't know what he's talking about". It's the consensus view don't you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Right. So who's this fucking weirdo?Chairman Mao I think. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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