Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[ICTChris]

The last outbreak of a novel coronavirus pre-Covid was MERS around ten years ago and that infected humans who had been in contact with camels. It was far deadlier than COVID but much less contagious resulting in a smaller outbreak. There were a couple of cases in the UK though and a major outbreak in South Korea, which is one reason why they had beefed up things like contact tracing and hotel quarantine ahead of the current pandemic.

I haven’t read whichever article politics for Ali links to so maybe Sridhar said all that.

[Michael W]

13 minutes ago, strichener said:

In communication with a company in Jaipur and they are locked down.  The guy I was talking to has half his workforce off with COVID and is telling me that the oxygen situation is even worse than it is being reported.

Grim. Think we are too far gone now to avoid a catastrophe there, but hopefully the lockdown puts a stopper on the rises. 

2 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The last outbreak of a novel coronavirus pre-Covid was MERS around ten years ago and that infected humans who had been in contact with camels. It was far deadlier than COVID but much less contagious resulting in a smaller outbreak. There were a couple of cases in the UK though and a major outbreak in South Korea, which is one reason why they had beefed up things like contact tracing and hotel quarantine ahead of the current pandemic.

I haven’t read whichever article politics for Ali links to so maybe Sridhar said all that.

She did, having done the usual copy and paste job on border closures and variants. 

[Lyle Lanley]

2 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

The last outbreak of a novel coronavirus pre-Covid was MERS around ten years ago and that infected humans who had been in contact with camels. It was far deadlier than COVID but much less contagious resulting in a smaller outbreak. There were a couple of cases in the UK though and a major outbreak in South Korea, which is one reason why they had beefed up things like contact tracing and hotel quarantine ahead of the current pandemic.

I haven’t read whichever article politics for Ali links to so maybe Sridhar said all that.

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Coronaviruses are usually spread by bats, but can also infect camels (like Mers), birds, cats (like Sars), mink, tigers, lions, pangolins and many other mammals. All it takes to set off the next pandemic is for these viruses to recombine and infect a human through usual respiratory mechanisms. While scientists can continue chasing specific viruses, a better strategy is to create a vaccine that can protect against numerous coronaviruses. This isn’t science fiction: it’s already happening, with positive results from early trials. But delivering such a vaccine will require investment in scientific research, forward thinking, and planning for manufacturing and distribution across the world.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/apr/27/britain-safe-covid-19-world-vaccinated-end-pandemic

[strichener]

13 minutes ago, s_dog said:

That's the scary thing about India, the numbers of infections have shot up in the past 3-4 weeks. We all know there is a lag between cases > hospitalisation > death, so how bad are the numbers dying going to get? Brazil was terrible, this is horrific. They need any kind of help that is available, and lots of it, but even much of that may be too little, too late.

Tbf, I think the lack of healthcare in India is probably resulting in deaths happening much quicker from the point of infection.

[Tight minge]

12 minutes ago, strichener said:

In communication with a company in Jaipur and they are locked down.  The guy I was talking to has half his workforce off with COVID and is telling me that the oxygen situation is even worse than it is being reported.

There have been numerous lockdowns in India and are lockdowns today. However, I think, only one national lockdown last year. The rest at the discretion of the local governments. The initially worst hit are of Pune in Maharashtra has had many lockdowns. Of course these lockdowns have been too short, difficult to enforce outside of workplaces and  with a huge migrant population. As soon as a planned lockdown is coming and people have no income, they of course head home and thus spread the virus.

The huge rallies by Modi and co and the recent religious festivals haven’t helped.

The whole thing is a mess. The caste system will also come in to things. As soon as vaccines were available in India they were available to those who were willing to pay for it rather than any systematic approach. 

Sure as shit the Dalit will not be counted nor probably even recorded in the deaths that are mounting up. 

 

[Les Cabbage]

23 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Lockdown for all camels it is. 

I’ll be taking the hump if anything comes from this 

[Elixir]

Sridhar's fading fringe views are perfectly suited to a piss-rag like The Guardian.

[Thereisalight..]

2 hours ago, Scosha said:

There is no way the public will comply with these rules where possible after 21st June when hospitals are empty and a HUGE amount of the population are vaccinated. These restrictions were to “protect the NHS” and “save lives” well, the NHS is now protected and less people are dying (and this will only reduce even more), due to the impact of a highly successful vaccine. 
I still take comfort from the likes of Whitty etc saying we’ll need to live with this going forward. We’ll get there! 

The sad thing is plenty will comply. You only need to look at social media pages to see the reactions from Helen Lovejoy types about people having fun at the beaches at the weekend, or folk saying "here comes the 3rd wave" because a bunch of women queued for Primark reopening. The media have made a large percentage of folk scared of their own shadow

[Detournement]

 

[WhiteRoseKillie]

8 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

Lockdown for all camels it is. 

Handy reference to camel ID based on humps:

1 - Dromedary

2 - Bactrian

3 - Humphrey

4 - Saudi Quattro

(Coat, Got)

[superbigal]

Do my boys have to put these away again ?

[mizfit]

Someone else might’ve picked it up better, but I’m sure on BBC Scotland this morning they stated that an unvaccinated person in a house with a vaccinated person has only a 30% chance of being infected.

[super_carson]

3 minutes ago, mizfit said:

Someone else might’ve picked it up better, but I’m sure on BBC Scotland this morning they stated that an unvaccinated person in a house with a vaccinated person has only a 30% chance of being infected.

Yeah there was a study on transmission that's just come out:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56904993

I believe, in P&B parlance, a big photo of a cigar is required?

 

All joking aside, while there is still plenty doom and gloom coming out from certain scientists and media outlets it's pretty evident that the vaccines are working above and beyond what was hoped.  This *should* be reflected in even bigger drops case numbers in addition to the tiny numbers of hospitalisations and deaths.  If/when that happens, surely the pressure to bin all restrictions will become insurmountable?  

 

[101]

14 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

17 hours ago, 101 said:

What do you do when your cash cow died before his 100th birthday when you already have the t-shirts printed?
Naturally you still flog them.
 

I assume it's the leech of a daughter that's running all this?

I think it was her running it all along yes and presumably she takes the lion share

[101]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

 

Why is he dragging his heals unless it's the line the pockets of his pals? 

He is effectively the only government left that could massively deviate from the schedule and you would imagine the data allows him to just go for it, funny they still can't get scran indoors.

[sparky88]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

 

Anyone who actually believed that June 21 would be back to normal obviously hasn't been paying attention. '10 weeks to beat coronavirus', 'back to normal by Christmas', 'all restrictions ended by Easter'. 

[Bairnardo]

Anyone who actually believed that June 21 would be back to normal obviously hasn't been paying attention. '10 weeks to beat coronavirus', 'back to normal by Christmas', 'all restrictions ended by Easter'. 

Except none of the previous promises had a vaccine utterly smoking the virus though?

That transmission thing is knocking over the last few excuses for keeping restrictions. Shove them up their arse now for me.

[Michael W]

35 minutes ago, 101 said:

Why is he dragging his heals unless it's the line the pockets of his pals? 

He is effectively the only government left that could massively deviate from the schedule and you would imagine the data allows him to just go for it, funny they still can't get scran indoors.

Because he is incapable of making a decision. He always has been and this is no exception - he was bounced into lockdown as well. 

I suspect he also knows he fucked up previously and is now terrified of letting go of the restrictions. 

[Wee Bully]

10 minutes ago, Michael W said:

Because he is incapable of making a decision. He always has been and this is no exception - he was bounced into lockdown as well. 

I suspect he also knows he fucked up previously and is now terrified of letting go of the restrictions. 

The stuff about him being willing to let the dead pile up in their thousands, and the absolutely correct backlash to that, aren’t going to encourage him to move any faster

[Gaz]

The most common side-effect of getting the Coronavirus vaccine by having a two-inch needle jammed into your arm is, er, a sore arm.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56901356