Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Rugster]

3 minutes ago, Big Fifer said:

Am I right in saying the written guidance still hasn't been produced?

It came out this morning. Still clear as mud in some instances. Eg. The main page says kids under 12 are exempt from face coverings, but when you click onto the specific face covering section it say under 5s are exempt.

Edited August 6, 2021 by Rugster

[superbigal]

Daily Cases Update:  Day 31 of dropping cases a tiny 0.13% down to 142.4 cases per 100K.  We have bottomed out for now. Looks also England has bottomed out albeit at a much higher level nearly twice that of Scotland.

Dundee now the lowest of the 4 cities with an 86% fall in 1  month.

Lanarkshire makes it's way back to the top 2 spots where it spent most of last Autumn.  

News in Jags where 1st Vaccines rose from  2,185 to 2209   Still circa 355,000 to go.  2nd vaccines 19,353 down to 17,266

Total Cases Scotland 7 days from 28th July to 3rd August  were 7,794 now 7,784 down 0.13%.  Positivity was 5.6%  now 5.6%.   Cases per 100k were 142.4 now 142.4

Home Nations Daily update  :  UK Average   270.5 to 268.7 down 0.67%, England  283.7 to 282.1 down 0.56%, Wales 141.6 to 141.5 down 0.07%, Northern Ireland  455.1 to 445.3 down 2.15%

So that's the UK down for 13 days in a row.  Scotland 31 days, Wales 15 days, England 13 days and Northern Ireland 7 days

In Europe for travellers  Spain is top at 319.8 to 308.5, France 234.4 to 236.3, Greece 182.0 to 182.9, Ireland 176.9 to 179.5, Portugal 166.9 to 162.7, These are the only main countries over 111 cases per 100K

Scotland peaks in Wave 3 at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8%

Scotland previously peaked in wave 2 at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

South Lanarkshire 207.0 to 205.4 

North Lanarkshire    201.7  to 191.7

North Ayrshire   181.0 to 188.5 Large rise of 12% in 2 days.

Inverclyde  214.1 to 188.2  Down 12.10% great day.

West Dunbartonshire  193.6 to 186.8

West Lothian  182.2 to 183.9

Midlothian  161.0 to 180.4  Up over 12%

East Lothian   143.7 to 159.4 Up near 11%

Fife   147.8 to 154.0

Glasgow City   152.8 to 153.4

Dumfries & Galloway  145.0 to 147.0  

East Dunbartonshire    140.7 to 144.4

City Of Edinburgh  137.8 to 139.9 

Renfrewshire  131.6 to 138.8

Stirling   126.5 to 136.1 

Aberdeen City   134.5 to 130.1

South Ayrshire 133.8 to 128.4

Dundee City 142.5 to 127.7  31st day in a row of dropping.  Huge over 10% today.

East Renfrewshire   124.9  to 127.0 

East Ayrshire    116.0 to 123.4

Clackmannanshire   140.4 to 122.8 Down over 20% in 2 days

Scottish  Borders   109.3 to 117.1  Up 17% in 2 days

Aberdeenshire   93.9 to 100.1  

Falkirk   108.4 to 98.4  Down near 10% and dip below 100

Argyll & Bute  90.1 to 94.8

Highlands  92.6 to 93.4

Angus   101.9 to 91.5   Down near 10% and dip below 100

Western Isles   90.6 to 86.8  

Perth & Kinross   86.9 to 81.0

Moray   79.4 to 71.0

Shetland Islands   61.2 to 65.6

Orkney Islands 4.5 to 22.3

Edited August 6, 2021 by superbigal

[vikingTON]

24 minutes ago, Frank Sobotka said:

This isn't a dig at anyone, but the repeated "Hurumph, well I won't be voting for the SNP or Sturgeon again" mewling is getting tiring already.

They do not give a f**k. They've just been voted back in and won't face the electorate again for years.

Well that's simply not true. There are local elections due across the country, where turning out your supporters is more important than in a national election. If people aren't impressed by Scottish Government performance or the local SNP are led by a Chris McEleny type, they fail to win power in a local setting. And it is at the local branch level that activism takes place for national elections, so the knock-on effects are real enough. 

The SNP like every other dominant party is interested in power at every level of government, not just Holyrood. If it loses Glasgow or other local authorities then that is a major setback from their point of view.

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They do not give a f**k. Even before the pandemic, whatever has made you think that they are in anyway bothered about the 'enjoys football and going for a pint' demographic ?

Except that it's not even remotely just football fans who think that the latest set of restrictions are a completely ridiculous, illogical mess. A government whose 'Covid tsar' can't get the guidance right or even sound like a sentient human being when discussing 'vertical drinking' is impressing nobody in the competence stakes.

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They do not give a f**k. Especially, if you're going to abstain instead.

A withheld vote by a previous supporter is still harmful to any political party, whether it is given to a different party or not. 

Edited August 6, 2021 by vikingTON

[ICTChris]

I'm just catching up on the latest messaging - you can unmask for the three Ds, drinking, dancing and dining.  

The three Ds   They have clearly just been sitting in a room trying to work out some bullshit slogan for the making it up on the hoof pish.

[Wee-Bey]

8 minutes ago, virginton said:

Well that's simply not true. There are local elections due across the country, where turning out your supporters is more important than in a national election. If people aren't impressed by Scottish Government performance or the local SNP are led by a Chris McEleny type, they fail to win power in a local setting. And it is at the local branch level that activism takes place for national elections. 

They strolled an election 3 months ago. The council elections are 9 months away. Things are opening up now, but even now at the 'vertical drinking' high water mark of their covid related clownshoes, they're still winning elections.

 

21 minutes ago, virginton said:

Except that it's not even remotely just football fans who think that the latest set of restrictions are a completely ridiculous, illogical mess. A government whose Covid tsar can't get the guidance right or even sound like a sentient human being on 'vertical drinking' is impressing nobody in the competence stakes.

Totally agree, but let's not fall into the trap of thinking that this thread is an accurate representation of the electorate as a whole. There's hundreds of thousands of voters who won't give a single solitary shite if there's 40 or 40,000 allowed into football grounds.

As usual, pre election bribes to key demographics will also help voters forget about idiots like Swinney and that we had restrictions for a couple of weeks after England did.

27 minutes ago, virginton said:

A withheld vote by a previous supporter is still harmful to any political party, whether it is given to a different party or not. 

Again, I agree, but both the constitutional situation and the absolute dogshit that masquerades as branch office opposition mitigates this somewhat.

[Marshmallo]

29 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

I'm just catching up on the latest messaging - you can unmask for the three Ds, drinking, dancing and dining.  

The three Ds   They have clearly just been sitting in a room trying to work out some bullshit slogan for the making it up on the hoof pish.

[No_Problemo]

When you think they couldn’t possibly get worse, f**k me - what an utter embarrassment they have become. 

[Bairnardo]

"Masks to be worn when moving around in clubs" is final confirmation for me that not one of those people writing this shit has ever set foot in a nightclub.

[Elixir]

Oaft, absolutely unhinged.

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

16 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Oaft, absolutely unhinged.

 

Peak Seymour Skinner stuff here.

[Thereisalight..]

Just caught the three Ds announcement. Yet another message treating people like kids. Suprised nobody asked about the 4th D that happens at nightclubs- dicking

[Bairnardo]

Fully expect a Scotgov clarification on whether doing a Theresa May style dance/walk to the dancefloor requires a mask. Might as well see how fucking ridiculous this parody can get

[GNU_Linux]

Dissapointed the D campaign doesn't have some dabbing to get down with youth & their fortnites.

[effeffsee_the2nd]

Looks to me like this will be a nonissue just shortly

[Elixir]

Some of the most nauseating Covid discourse is that 'WE JUST DINNAE KNOW ABOOT THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES!!!11', as if the overwhelming majority of those who recover and/or are vaccinated are somehow going to grow a third eye or second arsehole in ten years time or something. We categorically know, within reason, that post mass population level immunisation it is simply a bog standard virus like any other. More bedwetting gubbins that is fit for the nearest skip.

 

[Left Back]

3 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Some of the most nauseating Covid discourse is that 'WE JUST DINNAE KNOW ABOOT THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES!!!11', as if the overwhelming majority of those who recover and/or are vaccinated are somehow going to grow a third eye or second arsehole in ten years time or something. We categorically know, within reason, that post mass population level immunisation it is simply a bog standard virus like any other. More bedwetting gubbins that is fit for the nearest skip.

 

How many years do they propose we wait to find out the long term consequences before resuming normal life?

[anotherchance]

8 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Some of the most nauseating Covid discourse is that 'WE JUST DINNAE KNOW ABOOT THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES!!!11', as if the overwhelming majority of those who recover and/or are vaccinated are somehow going to grow a third eye or second arsehole in ten years time or something. We categorically know, within reason, that post mass population level immunisation it is simply a bog standard virus like any other. More bedwetting gubbins that is fit for the nearest skip.

 

That’s fine, he can get on with worrying about things that might never happen while the rest of us get on with it. Although I’m not convinced that’ll mean much more than the usual online virtue signalling.

We are at the point where people either wish to participate in society or not. If they don’t, that’s up to them, but don’t try to drag every other c**t down with them.

[welshbairn]

Yeah, it's almost like there wasn't loads of studies going on to find out the long lasting effects of Covid, if any, and publishing the data as soon as available. 

[craigkillie]

5 hours ago, Abdul_Latif said:

If someone like Joanna Cherry for example can’t take back the party she may just go and set up shop on her own and I dare say would have plenty backing.

The Alba Party tried to build a big chunk of their campaign around transphobia and didn't get any traction, can't see why she'd do any better.

[Thereisalight..]

America the first to shit the bed over outdoor events. Just hope NS and JL havent seen this or they'll be backtracking on TRNSMT, full stadiums etc