UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Physical distancing will remain in healthcare settings, despite Scotland's move beyond level zero on Monday. Scotland's health secretary has confirmed that hospitals, doctors' surgeries and dentists will keep the 2m rule after the majority of coronavirus restrictions are eased. Humza Yousaf said the situation would be reviewed at an unspecified time in the future. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58130484 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) The idea that you could actually get inside a GP surgery in the first place in order to keep 2m away from anyone else... Presumably the '2m distance' they are talking about is the closest you can realistically expect to get to the building before you are told in no uncertain terms to get fucked? Edited August 8, 2021 by Boo Khaki 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Anti-vaxxers are oddballs and at this stage people who are vaccine hesitant aren’t much better. I don’t care if they don’t want to get the vaccine, that’s their choice. However I do care that they’re a minority and are setting the tone for the country opening up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Anti-vaxxers are oddballs and at this stage people who are vaccine hesitant aren’t much better. I don’t care if they don’t want to get the vaccine, that’s their choice. However I do care that they’re a minority and are setting the tone for the country opening up. Why is it being allowed to become the narrative that opening up is being held back by the miniscule amount of non-vaccinated, when the number of vaccinated has wildly exceeded even optimistic estimates? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 Independent SAGE had a special guest on their zoom meeting, a 13 year old talking about how terrified he was of going back to school due to the risk of Covid. Absolutely disgraceful, dragging out children to reinforce their talking points. I won’t link to it but it’s on their Twitter. As well as iSage the boys parents need their heads looked at, so many people see their kids as a way to filter out their views to the social media world. Utter narcissism. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 17 hours ago, NotThePars said: What are the numbers here? Genuine question because the SNP have just scooshed their way into government again. Anecdotal I realise here, but the bbq I was at yesterday had at least a couple out of say 25 or so folk that have had enough of the SNP. All in favour of independence, but sick of the constant failures, controversial bills in the last few years and now failure to deal with coming out the end of Covid. The rest of the folk were mostly absolutely oblivious to what is going on in politics and really just vote SNP cause they think it’s the right thing to do and “Nicola is trying her best”. If that is a representative view countrywide it could see support for the SNP dwindle and membership down even a couple of percent which would be concerning for them, given the narrow margins of victory they achieve in a lot of seats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SANTAN Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: Anecdotal I realise here, but the bbq I was at yesterday had at least a couple out of say 25 or so folk that have had enough of the SNP. All in favour of independence, but sick of the constant failures, controversial bills in the last few years and now failure to deal with coming out the end of Covid. The rest of the folk were mostly absolutely oblivious to what is going on in politics and really just vote SNP cause they think it’s the right thing to do and “Nicola is trying her best”. If that is a representative view countrywide it could see support for the SNP dwindle and membership down even a couple of percent which would be concerning for them, given the narrow margins of victory they achieve in a lot of seats. I'm guessing they're frequent posters in the Politics section on here then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Independent SAGE had a special guest on their zoom meeting, a 13 year old talking about how terrified he was of going back to school due to the risk of Covid. Absolutely disgraceful, dragging out children to reinforce their talking points. I won’t link to it but it’s on their Twitter. As well as iSage the boys parents need their heads looked at, so many people see their kids as a way to filter out their views to the social media world. Utter narcissism.This is when we really need stacey from denny to counter that it’s all a load ae shite cause her two huvnae hud it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Or perhaps even wafer thin. I think you have to except that you've not read the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) No surprise that iSage are again punting anecdotes to further their agenda given they attack any study that doesn't back their viewpoint. We joke a lot on here about Lovejoys, but "the children" is genuinely their last stand. Turns out that the kid they interviewed has a Twitter account that was opened in 2012, so he'd have been 4. Clearly this was his mum that did this, so I think we can see where the issues in this family have started. Edited August 8, 2021 by Michael W 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 There’s a strange trend to use children as political activists and tools. The first I heard of kids being part of a demonstration as a big talking point was during the Iraq War when some kids at a few Edinburgh schools didn’t go into school so they could go on an anti war march. That was pretty unusual at the time but now every single march of a certain ilk, the pro-EU matches being the best example, have kids with placards trotting alongside their neck bearded middle class parents. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with young people campaigning or being involved in politics. Campaigners like Greta Thunberg and Malala Yousafzai are obviously extremely knowledgeable and are valuable. I do think that children being wheeled out as some sort of moral arbiter is wrong and doing it to your 13 year old is disgraceful behaviour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 2 hours ago, oaksoft said: Or perhaps even wafer thin. 'Whoosh' is sometimes an inadequate term. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, ICTChris said: There’s a strange trend to use children as political activists and tools. The first I heard of kids being part of a demonstration as a big talking point was during the Iraq War when some kids at a few Edinburgh schools didn’t go into school so they could go on an anti war march. That was pretty unusual at the time but now every single march of a certain ilk, the pro-EU matches being the best example, have kids with placards trotting alongside their neck bearded middle class parents. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with young people campaigning or being involved in politics. Campaigners like Greta Thunberg and Malala Yousafzai are obviously extremely knowledgeable and are valuable. I do think that children being wheeled out as some sort of moral arbiter is wrong and doing it to your 13 year old is disgraceful behaviour. It's designed purely to play on people's emotions and move the debate away from facts. And as I imagine the majority of the population have had children, it's an emotional appeal aimed at appealing to their instincts to try and force their views around to their own under the guise this is for the children's sake. If you disagree, you hate children, probably. I don't really like seeing kids dragged along to things at the parent's behest because ultimately it's projection of the parent's own views and not independent thought, but in many cases if the kids weren't there the parent ultimately couldn't go. At the other end of the scale, some people use their kids because they can't hold a cohesive argument and will just use the kids as an emotional argument, usually "THEIR FUTURE!!!" as a retort to anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 Who could possibly have foreseen any of this? Pathetic stuff by iSage, this is something you see all the time on social media, particularly Twitter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 There’s a strange trend to use children as political activists and tools. The first I heard of kids being part of a demonstration as a big talking point was during the Iraq War when some kids at a few Edinburgh schools didn’t go into school so they could go on an anti war march. That was pretty unusual at the time but now every single march of a certain ilk, the pro-EU matches being the best example, have kids with placards trotting alongside their neck bearded middle class parents. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with young people campaigning or being involved in politics. Campaigners like Greta Thunberg and Malala Yousafzai are obviously extremely knowledgeable and are valuable. I do think that children being wheeled out as some sort of moral arbiter is wrong and doing it to your 13 year old is disgraceful behaviour.I think there's a difference in that folk like Greta and Malala did stuff off their own bat - they might have been encouraged and supported by their parents but it seems genuine. Folk dragging their kids into their own politics is quite different to that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Who could possibly have foreseen any of this? Pathetic stuff by iSage, this is something you see all the time on social media, particularly Twitter. They knew this would happen and arguably wanted it to happen. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I think there's a difference in that folk like Greta... did stuff off [her] own bat -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I think there's a difference in that folk like Greta and Malala did stuff off their own bat - they might have been encouraged and supported by their parents but it seems genuine. Folk dragging their kids into their own politics is quite different to that.Greta Thunberg is no different - she is as much a product of her middle class parents as those midfield class children on other protests. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, craigkillie said: I think there's a difference in that folk like Greta and Malala did stuff off their own bat - they might have been encouraged and supported by their parents but it seems genuine. Folk dragging their kids into their own politics is quite different to that. Yeah, that’s what I should’ve said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Stage two of the iSage emotional appeal right there in that statement. "Look at this poor, vulnerable boy sharing his stoey about his worries and all these people are ATTACKING him! This is disgraceful!". They purposely brought in a child to further their own agenda, posting it on Twitter where scientists on both sides of this debate have been subject to all sorts of abuse. They have knowingly exposed a child to this environment and have almost certainly failed whatever safeguarding they are supposed to adhere to. Gutter level from an increasingly disingenous pressure group that has long since lost the argument. Personal anecodates are not quantifiable evidence. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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