Thorongil Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Think his point is that I might have to make my decision in the knowledge that passports may yet extend downwards. And he is right, that will have form most of my decision tbh, since a minimum of 50% of the people I decide for have now had covid and didnt have a shred of symptoms beyond day 1, its clear medical neccessity will inform precisely none of my decision. Its an absolute fucking disgrace that I might have to vaccinate a previously infected child, to quite literlly NO benefit, to appease the political games of the SNP and allow her her place in society. I do however, look forward to an explanation as to how this is moonhowling on my part. Why is vaccinating kids even a problem? I’d get mine vaccinated no problem, and they’ve had the virus. Just realised I can get a booster as I’m over 40. Will get one this weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Thorongil said: Why is vaccinating kids even a problem? I’d get mine vaccinated no problem, and they’ve had the virus. Just realised I can get a booster as I’m over 40. Will get one this weekend. Why is medicating children against something they need no protection against, whixh shows no evidence of its stated aims, under pain of exclusion from normality a problem? Take some time mate. Il wait. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Quadruple actually. wtf Phones on one here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) Big pharma must be rubbing their hands at the thought of having to produce a tweaked vaccine to roll out just after everyone's had their booster for the old variants. Edited November 26, 2021 by Abdul_Latif 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 The Saffers say that it behaves similar to Alpha strain, has mutations similar to Beta and Gamma variants and has characteristics similar to Delta that make it more transmissible. Can someone get the bingo card ready for the rhetoric we're likely to hear over the next couple of weeks... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 That article "one scientist told me it's the worst variant he's ever seen" What even is journalism any more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 The Saffers say that it behaves similar to Alpha strain, has mutations similar to Beta and Gamma variants and has characteristics similar to Delta that make it more transmissible. Can someone get the bingo card ready for the rhetoric we're likely to hear over the next couple of weeks... So basically all variants which are already dealt with by the vaccines?NEXT! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Why is medicating children against something they need no protection against, whixh shows no evidence of its stated aims, under pain of exclusion from normality a problem? Take some time mate. Il wait. It’s not medication though is it? It’s prevention. And the reason? To try to maintain public health. honestly don’t see the big deal, but I think COVID has become some kind of hobby for a lot of people and we have a whole new generation of armchair epidemiologists making a big drama about everything. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: Big pharma must be rubbing their hands at the thought of having to produce a tweaked vaccine to roll out just after everyone's had their booster for the old variants. Big pharma huh? There’s always a bogeyman somewhere! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thorongil said: It’s not medication though is it? It’s prevention. And the reason? To try to maintain public health. honestly don’t see the big deal, but I think COVID has become some kind of hobby for a lot of people and we have a whole new generation of armchair epidemiologists making a big drama about everything. Evidence for reduction of spread, and a JCVI recommendation to do it should be incoming then aye? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I've had 3 LFTs and 1 PCR this week, all negative, but my head feels like its going to explode since Wednesday (my actual head not my penis.) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheScarf said: I've had 3 LFTs and 1 PCR this week, all negative, but my head feels like its going to explode since Wednesday (my actual head not my penis.) I’ve got a horrendous cold this week, which is definitely not covid. I expect I’ll get a couple more colds till about mid February. That’s just winter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 hours ago, oaksoft said: It's bad enough that we're trying to coerce adults into taking vaccines. But to suggest that we should do that to children as well when there's no clear benefit to them taking that vaccine (according to the JCVI) is beyond the pale. Well no, we 'coerce' children into taking vaccinations all the time. It is the choice of the parent whether they should get any other vaccine and that choice should be maintained for Covid as well. But as Covid vaccination is offered to 12-16 year olds and then subsequently extended down the age brackets, then each group in turn should also be factored into any existing restrictions on the unvaccinated. That's the perfectly logical response. Quote You either support these passports or you don't. The half-way house you are suggesting makes no sense. It's the current system that is a nonsensical halfway house - restricting adults by vaccination, while giving a magical exemption to unvaccinated teenagers 'cos thur weans'. Vaccine passports should go but while they are kept in place the nonsensical loophole should also go. If that focuses more minds on the inconvenience of the scheme then all the better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 everybody sit doon We shouldn't despair, vaccines will be effective, so if you haven't had your vaccine go and get it, be that the booster, the first dose, the second dose. "Secondly there are new medicines coming along... these will not be affected almost certainly by this mutation. "We have got much better at controlling the disease in other ways in hospital so it is bad news but it is not doomsday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) Edited November 26, 2021 by Thorongil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) Oh goody, we get to hear Tait-Burkard say "vaaaaaar-yints" again. Edited November 26, 2021 by Arch Stanton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Tynie Wickfield said: The Saffers say that it behaves similar to Alpha strain, has mutations similar to Beta and Gamma variants and has characteristics similar to Delta that make it more transmissible. Can someone get the bingo card ready for the rhetoric we're likely to hear over the next couple of weeks... Nicola has her early Christmas present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 FTSE taking a hammering. Variant panic everywhere. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Cannot be long until everyone's favourite government adviser, the lying, duplicitous, mental health bashing fantasist, starts screaming for a lockdown again. Meanwhile feel free to buy my book... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: FTSE taking a hammering. Variant panic everywhere. Not just the FTSE - same with the other European exchanges 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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