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2 minutes ago, dundeefc1783 said:
27 minutes ago, 101 said:
Anyone else get a sore armpit after their booster? 
Sore arm and sore head have subsided but that's a new presumed symptom for me.

My arm was fucking killing me day after booster and then next day the pain seemed to move towards the inside of my upper arm below my armpit. Can't say I have ever had that after any vaccine before.

I'm the same, the first 2 doses and my flu jags i haven't experienced this, well we can ride or die together.

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My feeling throughout most of the pandemic is that it is correct to err on the side of caution and for most of it I've preferred Sturgeon's POV to Johnson's but I feel she's over the edge of the cliff now and that if she looks down she'll find like Wile E. Coyote there's no science there to hold her up.

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Quite clear there is no appetite for restrictions seeing as Leeds fans sang "Boris Johnson is a c**t" during the game against Arsenal. The public are wise and well ahead of the government. 

I can science like Deepti, pay me for interviews.

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Quite clear there is no appetite for restrictions seeing as Leeds fans sang "Boris Johnson is a c**t" during the game against Arsenal. The public are wise and well ahead of the government. 
I can science like Deepti, pay me for interviews.
I said before that I think Deepti has a problem and really ought to protect herself by stepping away.

Claiming that folk choosing not to go to restaurants means folk want restaurants to be forcibly closed does nothing to make me feel any different.

If she has people, they are letting her down by not smashing her phone into pieces.
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45 minutes ago, 101 said:

Anyone else get a sore armpit after their booster? 

Sore arm and sore head have subsided but that's a new presumed symptom for me.

Yip.

I got mine about 3weeks ago.  I was basically fine, but my arm hurt a bit more than for the previous two.  After a couple of days, any pain was mostly under my arm.  It was never severe or a anything, but it was definitely a feature.

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Just now, Todd_is_God said:

I commented on this earlier. The figures look weird

Do they, though? The jump is fairly consistent with the few weeks before. 


Monday 29th was up 48.2% on Sun 28th, 6th up 51.7%, 13th 68.3%. 20th currently sits at 38.5% above the 19th. The previous 3 weeks suggests it has a bit to climb yet. 

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1 minute ago, die hard doonhamer said:

Do they, though? The jump is fairly consistent with the few weeks before. 


Monday 29th was up 48.2% on Sun 28th, 6th up 51.7%, 13th 68.3%. 20th currently sits at 38.5% above the 19th. The previous 3 weeks suggests it has a bit to climb yet. 

Right now, I would still say yes. It's unfortunate that tomorrow will be the last update of this kind until the 29th, however it should give a better view of the data from the 21st.

If it is anything other than a slight increase or decrease on the 20th then it's a definite anomaly.

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12 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

I said before that I think Deepti has a problem and really ought to protect herself by stepping away.

Claiming that folk choosing not to go to restaurants means folk want restaurants to be forcibly closed does nothing to make me feel any different.

If she has people, they are letting her down by not smashing her phone into pieces.

I am torn between two thoughts on her: one is that she is a genuinely terrible person and the second that she is somewhat a product of citcumstance. 

She's said before that she's clinically vulnerable and maybe her viewpoint comes from that place. Dismal way to present yourself as a scientist if so, but she has a right bee in her bonnet about long covid (especially in kids). Any studies that contradict her view are met with a barrage of angry, accusatory tweets, the recent trend being that people disagreeing with her are 'covid minimalists'. 

The personality side, I think I'm in agreement that she needs to step away from twitter. Can't take criticism at all but is more than happy to lash out, in many cases quite vociferously. Seems to have regular foot stamping sessions about not being taken seriously, meanwhile is arrogant enough to think she can dictate the terms she's interviewed on. Maybe she's unwell, maybe she is a horrible person, I don't know. 

Not doing herself any favours at any rate. I'd agree someone should tell her to step back, but she fulfills Cadwalladr's missions statement of 'hijacking and disrupting the news cycle' or whatever it was before they amended it. 

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5 hours ago, WATTOO said:

There's already a huge outcry and a building rage about how the nanny state is running / curtailing our life coupled with the media commentators and social media "outraged" brigade who want to stop us from speaking our minds or voicing an opinion in case it goes against their own.

Nanny state and this cancel culture seem to go hand in hand in creating a dystopian 1984 like society which sadly we DO seem to be heading towards pretty rapidly.

Exactly correct and who are at the forefront of of the nanny state and cancel culture?

Why, the left of course and in Scotland, you’re talking SNP.

Its only the Brexiteer types from the right that are pushing back against it.

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36 minutes ago, 101 said:

I'm the same, the first 2 doses and my flu jags i haven't experienced this, well we can ride or die together.

Work colleague had this for a few days and asked her GP about it. In her case it was swollen lymph nodes and was told that it was a recognised but uncommon side effect but that it should be seen as a positive as it was indicative of the vaccine doing its job. 

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I know it’s social media and it should be taken with a pinch of salt, but it’s wild how many bootlickers are cheering on these restrictions 
Granny Danger is currently across multiple threads on the forum, shrieking about how folk in the covid thread are claiming the SNP is finished.

Treating a political party like your football team, but when you were 14, has some fairly odd consequences.
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5 hours ago, bdu98196 said:

Few wks ago, perhaps under the radar the UK government agreed a deal for a additional 114M vaccines for 2022/23. By my reckoning that means we will definatley have booster 4 & 5, possibly 6 to come then whatever new deals or how long til these all get used up. With the prospect of diminishing uptake, its likely that could drag on towards double digits!!!

maybe not fully pertinent to all the current points, but does perhaps highlight how long we (the public) may have to deal with this shit show

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-agrees-new-deals-to-future-proof-vaccine-rollout-in-light-of-new-variant

The top man at Pfizer said they'd be required for another 3 years a couple of weeks ago. 

Although he just might have his own, non medical, reasons for wanting that to be the case. 

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2 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said:

Exactly correct and who are at the forefront of of the nanny state and cancel culture?

Why, the left of course and in Scotland, you’re talking SNP.

Its only the Brexiteer types from the right that are pushing back against it.

You're right but this is where pigeon holing people or whole ideologies never really works.

What I mean by that is that some of my views would be perceived as socialist, some may be perceived as conservative and others quite liberal. I even have some views which our youth of today sees as extreme / old school/ yer da.

I'm pretty sure most of us are the same if we're honest as surely the majority don't fit nicely into a mainstream perception of what a "Tory" looks like or what a "Nat" looks like or what a good socialist / communist looks like ????

Ultimately it's better to just think for yourself rather than trying to please anyone else with what they think you should be thinking, they may not like it (as is seen on this forum regularly), however I'm afraid they're up a gum tree if they think people like me are ever going to conform to their warped idea of what is "right"...........

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