Elixir Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Sturgeon makes me sick. By the way, has anyone or anywhere pointed out that the ~1,000 deaths per week we're seeing 'with' covid in the UK is on a par with a somewhat bad winter of influenza? Two or three years ago literally nobody would give the slightest toss about this. In fact, they wouldn't even know. It's beyond belief what these mind cripples are doing to this country. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghLivi Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 47 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Absolutely reeking of desperation. The very idea that she might have made a mistake here won't even be crossing her mind. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, EdinburghLivi said: These folk honestly need help. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, EdinburghLivi said: This sums it up perfectly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: This sums it up perfectly Loves travel and European cities. I'm sure he's been highly critical of the SNP's vile approach to international travel. I'd get his hard drive checked. Anyone else watch the Newcastle v Man Utd game tonight? Must be a different virus just across the border on the Tyne with only the 52,000 at St James' Park. How are the hospitals in Newcastle possibly coping! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 "Fellow EU supporter". Kenny, get a grip you fucking wetwipe. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Elixir said: Loves travel and European cities. I'm sure he's been highly critical of the SNP's vile approach to international travel. I'd get his hard drive checked. Anyone else watch the Newcastle v Man Utd game tonight? Must be a different virus just across the border on the Tyne with only the 52,000 at St James' Park. How are the hospitals in Newcastle possibly coping! The darts in London as well. Packed indoors for the next week. Final on New Years Day. Hopefully it doesn't go pear shaped down south, and we can quickly remove the 'protections' here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 34 minutes ago, Elixir said: Loves travel and European cities. I'm sure he's been highly critical of the SNP's vile approach to international travel. I'd get his hard drive checked. Anyone else watch the Newcastle v Man Utd game tonight? Must be a different virus just across the border on the Tyne with only the 52,000 at St James' Park. How are the hospitals in Newcastle possibly coping! Man U players were following Scottish advice. Great example of social distancing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, GTee said: The darts in London as well. Packed indoors for the next week. Final on New Years Day. Hopefully it doesn't go pear shaped down south, and we can quickly remove the 'protections' here. It's on the 3rd btw! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 1 hour ago, EdinburghLivi said: I think some people are going to be in for a shock when they realise a number of people don’t vote SNP because of their policies outwith independence and no real credible alternative 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Elixir said: By the way, has anyone or anywhere pointed out that the ~1,000 deaths per week we're seeing 'with' covid in the UK is on a par with a somewhat bad winter of influenza? Two or three years ago literally nobody would give the slightest toss about this. In fact, they wouldn't even know. It's beyond belief what these mind cripples are doing to this country. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: So up to mid-March 2020, before Covid took off, that winter influenza season was seeing 2,000-2,500 deaths per week where influenza or influenza-influenced pneumonia was a contributing cause of death (comparison: 'with' covid). That's in England and Wales only so not even including Scotland and Northern Ireland figures. The peak in December/January was still seeing nearly 1,000 deaths per week linked purely to influenza or influenza-influenced pneumonia (comparison: 'of' covid). I don't even believe 2019/20 was a particularly severe influenza either. The data for 2017/18, the last truly severe influenza in the UK, would certainly put the current covid mewling into perspective. Essentially, in Scotland we are restricted from pre-pandemic normality because of hospital pressures which, a few years ago, nobody would even be interested in. Well, other than Guardian articles (rightly) arguing for things like better funding and work conditions at the time. This of course partly fueled by pointless isolation requirements for staff, many of whom won't be ill, and 'infection control' which has been fucking hopeless throughout anyway. Oh, and the flu has disappeared for a second straight year. I think we should actually be asking how the f**k could the NHS *not* cope with current admissions given the historic precedent, backlog or not. The level of risk has demonstrably been reduced to something comparable to influenza thanks to a combination of vaccination, prior exposure, and the virus itself mutating. All the while, society is torched once more to placate the egos and care visuals of the Scottish Government, the 'Independent SAGE' cult, and their followers. Utterly indefensible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael W said: "Fellow EU supporter". Kenny, get a grip you fucking wetwipe. But its those who oppose the restrictions who are ‘footballising’ the issue hahahahhahaha. Fucking pishing myself laughing reading that exchange. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 59 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: It's on the 3rd btw! . Thanks for that. Normally look forward to the final on New Years Day. Won't quite be the same if working next day. Oh well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) Just dropping in to ask if anyone has mentioned the possible effect on the Covid stats by voluntary and mandatory mitigation efforts like social distancing, face coverings and WFH which may have reduced the numbers of cases, hospitalisations and deaths a tad? No flu for 2 seasons, how on earth could that have happened? It has to be possible that that's why the worst case scenarios invented by the lying modellers haven't come about? Edited December 28, 2021 by welshbairn -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 See America is dropping self isolation for covid cases to 5 days? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Elixir said: The devolved diddy administrations right now: Not sure about the diddy bit given the way that the pandemic response has shown how much power they can wield over people's lives and it's important to bear in mind that Boris also went overboard on the nanny state approach as well at various points. England definitely wasn't following Sweden on sticking to preexisting pandemic protocols back in April 2020. The key though is that people do need to be made to understand how ultimately futile Sturgeon's chief mammy sort of approach is right now because for most of the population who are out and about to a reasonable extent it really is only a matter of time until they are exposed to something as transmissible as omicron and will have their roll of the dice with it. She isn't really protecting anyone in the long run at this point and is just being a nuisance in people's lives now that the IFR genuinely does appear to be comparable to normal run of the mill seasonal flu pandemics and the population is no longer immunologically naive to COVID-19 courtesy of vaccines or prior infection. Edited December 28, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: See America is dropping self isolation for covid cases to 5 days? If asymptomatic, and then mask on whenever round others for the next 5. The issue is going to be that getting tested here is a pain in the arse, home tests are $12-15 each and have increasingly become like hen’s teeth, so most asymptomatic cases will probably fly under the radar - folks will likely only go get tested if they’ve been a close contact to a positive case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 hours ago, welshbairn said: ... No flu for 2 seasons, how on earth could that have happened? ... Think you'll find that the notion that there has been no flu over the last two years is an urban myth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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