Todd_is_God Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, welshbairn said: You're pathetic, if it was 3000 you'd be saying the same. It's clear they're not testing for anything like maximum safe numbers at this stage, that'll come later. How? NS clearly stated that "the virus doesn't care what shape the ball is" and "the lessons learned from rugby, can be applied to football." What are they testing here that they haven't already tested? What do they expect to gain? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: How? NS clearly stated that "the virus doesn't care what shape the ball is" and "the lessons learned from rugby, can be applied to football." What are they testing here that they haven't already tested? What do they expect to gain? They've done a first stage test at a 67,000 stadium, now they're doing it at 22,000 and 6,500 venues. Next stages will be building up the numbers. Quote Our Scottish Premiership match with Kilmarnock on Saturday 12th September will be the first match played in front of crowds at Pittodrie for over 6 months. The match will be treated as a test event as we look to demonstrate our capability to host matches safely in-line with the latest government guidelines. This will involve significant additional measures being put in place to control access to the stadium and safe movement when inside the ground, supporters will also have to agree to the COVID-19 supporters code of conduct which can be found below. With that in mind the capacity for this initial test event will be 300 and access will be allocated via a ballot with supporters who purchased their season tickets within the first 7,500 being given priority, this applies to all who signed-up before 10th July. A limited part of the South Stand will be opened for the match and seats will be issued by the Ticket Office. To maximise the value of the test, the aim is to ensure a spread of different size groups and ages for the first match as we aim to provide a safe matchday experience for all supporters. After the first test event all season ticket holders who were not successful in the ballot (including those who purchased after 10th July) will have the opportunity to enter ballots for future matches. It is envisaged that test events will run for a number of weeks, perhaps longer, gradually increasing in size if the trials are successful. The only way to gain access for future test events will be as a season ticket holder and these places will be non-transferable. Edited September 9, 2020 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 None of which actually answers the question of, what do they hope to achieve from these tests? Unless they plan on "testing" every single stadium, then the percentage of capacity should be increased each and every time. Brighton literally put 2,500 in a stand the other day. The point blank refusal of the SG to do anything at all the same as England means that gets ignored, and we need to piss about with ludicrous baby steps to even get to that level. No other sector has to jump through these hoops - will theatres need to test 1.5% of their capacity before they get to open? Did pubs and restaurants? No, and these venues are indoors. It's a load of pish and you know it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 It looks like there's more chance of Donald Trump being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize than there is of significant crowds being allowed into stadiums before Spring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: It looks like there's more chance of Donald Trump being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize than there is of significant crowds being allowed into stadiums before Spring. Fck knows how lower league clubs are going to survive if that’s the case. Before anyone’s replies “but the streaming!!”, is that really going to bring in the same level of income as punters through the gates? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 It looks like there's more chance of Donald Trump being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize than there is of significant crowds being allowed into stadiums before Spring.You know he’s literally been nominated for one, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 We had the briefing on just as the FM was asked the question about football, it's clear that there is no chance for fans back any time soon. It's clear that football (and other sport of course) is pretty much at the bottom of the ladder for reopening. We'll have to have a sustained level of no cases for fans to come back and that won't happen during the winter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: None of which actually answers the question of, what do they hope to achieve from these tests? Unless they plan on "testing" every single stadium, then the percentage of capacity should be increased each and every time. Brighton literally put 2,500 in a stand the other day. The point blank refusal of the SG to do anything at all the same as England means that gets ignored, and we need to piss about with ludicrous baby steps to even get to that level. No other sector has to jump through these hoops - will theatres need to test 1.5% of their capacity before they get to open? Did pubs and restaurants? No, and these venues are indoors. It's a load of pish and you know it. For the final time, they're not testing numbers, they're testing procedures, which is easier to do with a token number of spectators. I really don't get why you're still struggling with this, it's not difficult. They had plenty of trials for pubs and restaurants before the procedures were laid down, no doubt they'll do the same for theatres. Edited September 9, 2020 by welshbairn 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Todd_is_God Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 NS was asked today if she felt support for the measures was reducing, which she sort of answered without answering, however they clearly are. The SNP would do well to heed public opinion, rather than continue to assume that they have everyone's support for what they are doing. I saw a lot of hilarity on fb and twitter through the week when Douglas Ross said he genuinely though he could be First Minister. He won't be, of course, but what no one seemed to grasp is that he doesn't have to be either. The pro-indy majority in Holyrood right now is just 6 seats, all 6 of which are the Greens. It won't take much for the SNP to lose that pro indy majority, at which point they are finished. What chance does a party have of forcing WM to allow them a referendum, if they are a minority government in a parliament without a pro-independence majority? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, welshbairn said: For the final time, they're not testing numbers, they're testing procedures, which is easier to do with a token number of spectators. I really don't get why you're still struggling with this, it's not difficult. They. Have. Already. Tested. Them. We already know that with one steward to open the toilet door, one to wipe your arse, and another to wipe down the toilet once you have been in that everyone can have a fantasticly safe day out. Why do we need to test them again with very similar numbers? Edited September 9, 2020 by Todd_is_God -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: I see she has deleted the racist tweet she posted earlier Is there a particular word you would use to describe someone with those views on how to suppress The Virus? Edited September 9, 2020 by Szamo's_Ammo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said: Is there a word you would use to describe someone with those views on how to suppress the virus? Racist, probably 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: NS was asked today if she felt support for the measures was reducing, which she sort of answered without answering, however they clearly are. The SNP would do well to heed public opinion, rather than continue to assume that they have everyone's support for what they are doing. I saw a lot of hilarity on fb and twitter through the week when Douglas Ross said he genuinely though he could be First Minister. He won't be, of course, but what no one seemed to grasp is that he doesn't have to be either. The pro-indy majority in Holyrood right now is just 6 seats, all 6 of which are the Greens. It won't take much for the SNP to lose that pro indy majority, at which point they are finished. What chance does a party have of forcing WM to allow them a referendum, if they are a minority government in a parliament without a pro-independence majority? Yet you are an independence supporter who will not vote for the SNP - there's your answer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Wee Willie said: Yet you are an independence supporter who will not vote for the SNP - there's your answer. Willie, unlike you, when a political party is no longer doing or proposing what I want, I won't vote for them. You keep paying them to ignore your emails if you like Edited September 9, 2020 by Todd_is_God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/health-54064347?__twitter_impression=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Bairnardo said: I've already put the above ramble in same file as "folk can just buy a house closer to their work". Loathe to take it back out tbh. Suffice to say its an unspeakably stupid claim, and the idea that years and years of building up family friendly policies etc in numerous workplaces could be binned, and the workforce along with it, to be replaced by non-parents is frankly embarrassing for anyone to come out with, let alone someone who steams around a football forum desperately trying to compare their degree qualifications and using patter like "Desmond". The idea that theres anyone in this thread having more of a footstomping tantrum than yourself.... “Batten down the tadgers lads! Don’t have kids or you won’t be able to foresee the unforeseeable global pandemic 10 years from now that’ll come along kill yer granny and make ye redundant!” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Wee Willie said: Yet you are an independence supporter who will not vote for the SNP - there's your answer. He must be raging that all the polls show Sturgeon more popular than ever, despite ignoring his wailing from the wilderness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: NS was asked today if she felt support for the measures was reducing, which she sort of answered without answering, however they clearly are. The SNP would do well to heed public opinion, rather than continue to assume that they have everyone's support for what they are doing. I saw a lot of hilarity on fb and twitter through the week when Douglas Ross said he genuinely though he could be First Minister. He won't be, of course, but what no one seemed to grasp is that he doesn't have to be either. The pro-indy majority in Holyrood right now is just 6 seats, all 6 of which are the Greens. It won't take much for the SNP to lose that pro indy majority, at which point they are finished. What chance does a party have of forcing WM to allow them a referendum, if they are a minority government in a parliament without a pro-independence majority? Has there been any recent (and by recent I mean in the last two weeks) polling on the subject of the restrictions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 25 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: NS was asked today if she felt support for the measures was reducing, which she sort of answered without answering, however they clearly are. The SNP would do well to heed public opinion, rather than continue to assume that they have everyone's support for what they are doing. I saw a lot of hilarity on fb and twitter through the week when Douglas Ross said he genuinely though he could be First Minister. He won't be, of course, but what no one seemed to grasp is that he doesn't have to be either. The pro-indy majority in Holyrood right now is just 6 seats, all 6 of which are the Greens. It won't take much for the SNP to lose that pro indy majority, at which point they are finished. What chance does a party have of forcing WM to allow them a referendum, if they are a minority government in a parliament without a pro-independence majority? If they make health decisions on the basis of public fatigue of Covid safety and chances of a referendum then they probably deserve to lose power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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