Lurkst Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: Lock them in their student unions for 2 weeks and let them get on with it. 26:30 minutes in... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatowner Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 How many people, in the UK, die SOLELY from COVID each day? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, expatowner said: How many people, in the UK, die SOLELY from COVID each day? 3.141 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, renton said: Seen this thread regarding the impact of Uni students: At this point sending students home is probably more dangerous than leaving them where they are. I do wonder if the circuit breaker is asmuch about keeping students out of hospitality and mixing as anything else. Certainly wouldn't be sending them home without a test, that's for sure. If we could, I'd test them and anyone negative can go home. Limiting hospitality does I fear create another problem - boredom. Mixing is banned, of course, but I don't imagine that's going to stop anyone having parties, which will spread the virus. Approaching this with an opportunist and immoral viewpoint, we also have the perfect opportunity here for a real life science experiment if students remain in halls. Namely, "how long does immunity last and can you catch covid twice?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, expatowner said: How many people, in the UK, die SOLELY from COVID each day? 8 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: 3.141 I think we need Todd to get this information into a Pi Chart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said: I think we need Todd to get this information into a Pi Chart. Kwality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Expecting some greenies from a few regulars on this thread for sharing this tweet. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, ICTChris said: Expecting some greenies from a few regulars on this thread for sharing this tweet. Delivered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stellaboz said: The Chinese figures over the summer surely can't be right? Unless it's all a load of bollocks. This is a good article to explain how CCHHHYYYYNNNNAAAA tackled the pandemic. quick response, previous experience, having the required infastructure in place, locking down hard and a compliant population are all factors. https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(20)30800-8/fulltext Edited October 12, 2020 by dirty dingus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Expecting some greenies from a few regulars on this thread for sharing this tweet. That's a hell of a wide bin for age: 12-24. Everyone from starting secondary school to (technically possibly) finishing your PhD. Edited to add: it's not, I didnt look hard enough. Edited October 12, 2020 by renton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I’d like to change my vote to bin for the obscene length of that post of his.Surely you can get binned as well for quoting the fucking thing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 minute ago, renton said: That's a hell of a wide bin for age: 12-24. ^^^ clutching at straws 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, virginton said: ^^^ clutching at straws Not all, it is too wide a bin to isolate specific settings and age factors and it's hardly contradictory of the previous post showing the effect of University students on a neighbourhoods prevelance anyway. Edited October 12, 2020 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, renton said: Not all, it is too wide a bin to isolate specific settings and age factors and it's hardly contradictory of the previous post showing the effect of University students on a neighbourhoods prevelance anyway. It isn't 12-24 though, it's year 12 to age 24, so 17/18-24. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Just now, die hard doonhamer said: It isn't 12-24 though, it's year 12 to age 24, so 17/18-24. Ah! OK got you. Then I'll retract my previous statement. Definitely seems like the Uni halls are driving the second wave. I would also be looking at blended learning for the upper age groups at schools as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Expecting some greenies from a few regulars on this thread for sharing this tweet. Greenied for JBM’s tweet in the thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, renton said: Not all, it is too wide a bin to isolate specific settings and age factors and Because of course you have been so forthright in denouncing wide age ranges like, say 18-30 throughout the thread. Quote it's hardly contradictory of the previous post showing the effect of University students on a neighbourhoods prevelance anyway. How many university students can be found among the second largest trend line? Be extremely specific. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, virginton said: Because of course you have been so forthright in denouncing wide age ranges like, say 18-30 throughout the thread. How many university students can be found among the second largest trend line? Be extremely specific. I would be had I 1. Noticed them and 2. Had they contextually been worth mentioning. However, that's not what happened here as I was helpfully corrected. I am honestly trying to argue in good faith here. 0, specific enough for you? Not that it tells the whole story. That 18-24 bin carries the Uni students which we have a lot of data on as driving infections, secondary school students in the last year or two of school, and a lot young adults in low paying jobs, including call centres, various hospitality jobs, and other retail and customer facing jobs. Do we have data that the rates of infection across the age bin are evenly spread, or are they centred on one part of it? It could well be that symptomatic cases spread more easily in 18 year old than 13 year old which is what the literature suggests anyway. In which case, removing 18 year olds from the environment would go a long way to reducing infections in the next age bin down, right? It might not, but the sensible thing to do is start with what we do know about symptomatic spread in adults vs. Children. By going to remote learning in Universities and blended learning for year 5/6 kids in secondary school we should remove most of the present risk. That leaves us only with the adult staff, but there is a limited amount we can do there. By concentrating blended learning in only the age groups most likely to be spreading symptomatic cases we can minimise disruption in terms of running the schools and to childcare arrangements for those families affected. It then allows us to differentiate cause and effect. We would quickly see what knock on effects we see in younger secondary age groups. Remember that in the Scottish data suggested that secondary schools had twice the symptomatic weekly rate as secondary schools (2.5% vs. 5%) weekly percentage for Uni students in the same week was running at something like 23% of all cases and hospitality about 26% . So, let's minimise mixing in the 17+ age group and between them and lower age groups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I cannae mind if I've posted this earlier but I still think it's funny in a macabre way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Data briefing now. Jonathan Van Tam leading. He looks like he could batter you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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