Bairnardo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, bendan said: They seem really reluctant to highlight this, though stats are published. Maybe they think giving under 40s/under 60s etc a clearer idea of their personal risk would encourage unsafe behaviour and lead to more transmission. Maybe. It cant*be too long after the vulnerable are vaccinated though before responsibility is handed over to the individual calculating the own risk tolerance and managing the situations they put themselves in Rather than burning hospitality to the ground and salting the earth for example, maybe just let folk make their own call re the residual danger of covid based on their age and health. *shouldn't 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart87 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 This year is a write off, possibly next spring as well. No point trying to fight it. Will just do you in m80.How will it be a write off when all of the vulnerable ages will be vaccinated by May at the latest? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Whilst i am on a roll for having a moan. Should really punt this in another thread but hey hoWhat is also annoying me is these z list celebrities from reality tv. Firstly, it annoys me that they are even famous in the first place. Unfortunately a sign of the world we live in. However, it is pissing me off that they have all fucked off to dubai and giving it the big yin whilst we are in tier 4. Im here trying to work getting pelted with peanuts and having to clear shitey nappies and they have swanned off in lockdown to sit on a beach.How have we got to the point where these cretins think they are famous enough to break lockdown and f**k off to dubai. Also rich enough to spend 2 months ir whatever in Dubai.I despair for my childrens future with shite like thatt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 See folk like you saying stuff like this, with absolutely no basis to say it, you genuinely are part of the problem. Absolutely buying into the amount of energy Nicola Sturgeon is putting into making sure folk dont have any expectations of her governments performance. If this year up until next Spring is a "write off" and theres no point in trying to fight it then I dread to think the state thousands and thousands of people will be in, in terms of health, mental health and life in general will be in. If you are happy to write off 2021 in January when we have 2 vaccines in hand, one approved and scheduled for spring delivery and several more seeking approval soon, then I guess that's up to you. But........ f**k me. Basis is the history of pandemics and looking at who and what is running the show.There isn't any way out until vaccinations reach a certain level. Not without mass testing. At 2 million a week it will take months. Asking for the impossible is only going to make you more frustrated.Especially when you cant fix it or do much to help.I'm absolutely raging at the government but again what can you do. Vote in who exactly?The problem started when previous governments ignored advice that this was going to happen.Just take a break from complaining about something you can't change and accept reality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 29 minutes ago, renton said: Basically, you can only sign up to WeChat once you have been vouched for by another user who has been on the platform for a given period and used it within the guidelines. So, anyone who flouts rules, whether on social media or in real life can quickly be tracked by WeChat for the government, and not just them - but the people around them and who signed them up for WeChat, and if one person is untrustworthy, well... what does that say about the person who signed them up? It encourages folk to shop each other to stop them coming under suspicion of various social ills. Just one small part of the larger social score metrics being rolled out across China. The government can view all your private messages, metadata and contacts in the UK as well. They can also use any microphones in your devices to spy on you. We know this because of Snowden and it's all legal now. The vast majority of people in the UK aren't worried about it because they understand that the government has no need to actively rather than passively spy on them. This is in a country with declining living standards and an unpopular government. Which makes me wonder why in China where the government is popular and has overseen the greatest rise in living standards in human history they need to harass all their citizens? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWL Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 22 minutes ago, Honest Saints Fan said: It's taken until this week for me to know someone personally that has covid. 4 people in fact. All mixed at Christmas and received their positive test at the weekend. Yup. In-laws all struck down from Christmas day. 4 adults - though didn't test the 2 kids as not showing symptoms. Mrs more angry at me as I had long said they shouldn't have got together at Xmas anyway. Bro in law a key worker and parents in law didn't need to visit. Whilst no underlying health issues as such, they are a family that doesn't say no when the dessert trolly passes so need to be careful. Obviously, I'm walking round the house like a dog with two dicks having been proved correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 How will it be a write off when all of the vulnerable ages will be vaccinated by May at the latest? Wait and see. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Between March and December I only knew 2 people. Between Christmas Day and today I’ve heard of 6. Ditto 3 in 8 months to 4 in the last week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Basis is the history of pandemics and looking at who and what is running the show.There isn't any way out until vaccinations reach a certain level. Not without mass testing. At 2 million a week it will take months. Asking for the impossible is only going to make you more frustrated.Especially when you cant fix it or do much to help.I'm absolutely raging at the government but again what can you do. Vote in who exactly?The problem started when previous governments ignored advice that this was going to happen.Just take a break from complaining about something you can't change and accept reality.Don’t take this the wrong way but yoj strike me as very much a glass half empty man. I prefer to be a bit more positive that this year won’t be a write off and by mid summer we will see a lot of restrictions lifted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Basis is the history of pandemics and looking at who and what is running the show. There isn't any way out until vaccinations reach a certain level. Not without mass testing. At 2 million a week it will take months. Asking for the impossible is only going to make you more frustrated. Especially when you cant fix it or do much to help. I'm absolutely raging at the government but again what can you do. Vote in who exactly? The problem started when previous governments ignored advice that this was going to happen. Just take a break from complaining about something you can't change and accept reality. Which previous global pandemic had vaccines approved and in use within months of the pandemic starting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Basis is the history of pandemics and looking at who and what is running the show. There isn't any way out until vaccinations reach a certain level. Not without mass testing. At 2 million a week it will take months. Asking for the impossible is only going to make you more frustrated. Especially when you cant fix it or do much to help. I'm absolutely raging at the government but again what can you do. Vote in who exactly? The problem started when previous governments ignored advice that this was going to happen. Just take a break from complaining about something you can't change and accept reality. Nope. We'll be out of this fairly soon. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: Certainly not North Haverbrook. North Haverbrook, Where have i heard that name before? Edited January 7, 2021 by Lyle Lanley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Snafu said: People are living in a daydream if they think its going to go back the way it was before the pandemic, it won't. Start planing ahead your own changes on how you are going to live your life, don't bother getting wrapped up in other people's denial it's not worth the energy and also the pandemic is far larger than any political party or the egos within. Life will obviously change permanently, some of it will be for the better in any case. People's main concern is being dragged into lockdowns every few months, something that will be over soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 44 minutes ago, mizfit said: Between March and December I only knew 2 people. Between Christmas Day and today I’ve heard of 6. Only knew of two people (both pensioners back from a holiday in March) up until maybe November. Since then, there's been a couple of outbreaks at work and two people ended up in hospital. I've heard of 6 other people who've had it plus two over 80's who've died, and two of my friends & some of their family have had it. Roughly split 60:40 between those that have had little or no symptoms to those that have been ill with flu-like symptoms or worse. I am most definitely taking the vaccine when I can. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Life will obviously change permanently, some of it will be for the better in any case. People's main concern is being dragged into lockdowns every few months, something that will be over soon.People have been doing much more of our socialising digitally over the past 2 decades. Is it maybe just more noticeable now that we don’t have a choice? The old moan from the wife of “ your never here your always with your mates at the pub/ bookies/ football etc is now “ your always on that bloody phone” 35 year ago we’d be down to the supporters club on a Thursday night for the quiz and a game of pool. Now we talk football and general shite on a website 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Which previous global pandemic had vaccines approved and in use within months of the pandemic starting? Give up, he’s the most miserable c**t in the history of the website. One of these people who thrives on being miserable so searches out the misery in each situation and clings onto it. I feel really sorry for anyone who actually has to spend time with him in real life, it must be incredibly draining. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Willie Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: All well and good but WH Smith (the newsagent) doesn't sell milk and papers form a tiny part of their business. Absolutely no need to be open similar to the other businesses I listed. Corner shops are rightly open to enable you to get that pint of milk or a paper that keeps your morale up. As I said we are playing at lockdown and stay at home. In Perth WH Smith is the main post office. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just now, effeffsee_the2nd said: People have been doing much more of our socialising digitally over the past 2 decades. Is it maybe just more noticeable now that we don’t have a choice? The old moan from the wife of “ your never here your always with your mates at the pub/ bookies/ football etc is now “ your always on that bloody phone” 35 year ago we’d be down to the supporters club on a Thursday night for the quiz and a game of pool. Now we talk football and general shite on a website Well exactly, life changes constantly and our behaviour is constantly shifting. Some of it comes incrementally, some of it from big events, the internet being one of them. Just because life will change as a result of this pandemic doesn't mean we won't be leaving the misery behind. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, renton said: Basically, you can only sign up to WeChat once you have been vouched for by another user who has been on the platform for a given period and used it within the guidelines. So, anyone who flouts rules, whether on social media or in real life can quickly be tracked by WeChat for the government, and not just them - but the people around them and who signed them up for WeChat, and if one person is untrustworthy, well... what does that say about the person who signed them up? It encourages folk to shop each other to stop them coming under suspicion of various social ills. Just one small part of the larger social score metrics being rolled out across China. Most government surveillance on citizens is thus done by their fellow citizens. Where did you get this 'info' from, Renton? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Snafu said: Clap for carers: Nicola Sturgeon says NHS workers would prefer the public abide by rules than applaud them NHS workers would prefer it if the public abided by lockdown rules rather than if they just clapped for them, the First Minister has said. https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/clap-carers-nicola-sturgeon-says-nhs-workers-would-prefer-public-abide-rules-applaud-them-3088445 Always laugh when I see stuff like this given the NHS workers I know are some of the worst for breaking lockdown rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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