welshbairn Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, tamthebam said: More repeats of shite remakes then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Engage, Explain, Encourage, Enforce – applying the four ‘E’s Policing will adopt a four-phase approach This is guidance to help officers put the four ‘E’sinto practice – it’s a suggested approach.The four ‘E’s are based on evidence that people are more likely to comply after a police encounter if they feel they have been treated fairly, have received an explanation, and have been given the opportunity to give their view. This idea of procedural justice to support police legitimacy has been quite well tested and fits with the policing by consent model – it’s founded on building public cooperation. Engage – officers speak to people and try to establish their awareness and understanding of the situation. They may ask people about their circumstances if they are out in public. Officers give people the opportunity to express their views. They listen and take people’s responses into account. Explain – officers try to educate people about any personal risks they are taking, they will explain the social distancing regulations and highlight the responsibilities we all share. Officers treat people with dignity and respect. They highlight their trustworthy motives by explaining wider social factors, such as the risks to public health and the NHS by not sticking to social distancing. Encourage – officers may need to guide individuals, suggesting they return home. Officers can encourage people to act reasonably, emphasising that staying alert and safe (social distancing) saves lives. They demonstrate consistency in their approach and are willing to explain why they are requesting a certain course of action.If an officer has been explicit in their request for someone to take action, has explained the risk and encouraged people to be reasonable to save lives and they have refused, then it may become necessary to: Enforce– officers may, as a last resort, remove a person to the place where they live, using reasonable force only if it is a necessary and proportionate means of ensuring compliance. They may also fine individual(s) for breach of the Regulation Any evidence that this has worked limiting the numbers breaching the regulations?Never once been stopped by a rozzer including at 6 am on a deserted road whilst going to work in march 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, strichener said: Even if there are 7106 groups of 500 people, this leaves more than 2/3rd of the population outside of xiao qu groups in Wuhan. It says at least i'd imagine because they are on a list Buzzfeed saw. It covers everywhere like a council ward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I presume the guy busking outside the City Chambers at lunchtime yesterday was taking his hour's exercise. There's actually less polis about it seems than before the lockdown was announced on Monday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Detournement said: It says at least i'd imagine because they are on a list Buzzfeed saw. It covers everywhere like a council ward. I don't believe it does cover everywhere and the entire concept only began in China in the 80's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 More than half of care home residents in Scotland have been vaccinated, according to the First Minister. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craigkillie Posted January 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 My favourite thing about this pandemic has been people who are out in towns or cities asking why other people are out in towns and cities. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just having a read on BBC there... Despite all of my concerns being totally unfounded and disproved by facts, it seems that numerous journalists share them. It also seems that the First Minister is becoming uncomfortable under the light of responsibility for vaccine delivery, which is basically what I have been saying. I feel some degree of sympathy tbf. She has never once hidden away like the village idiot in London. But she is going to have to start adding detail to the vaccine rollout other than "we are doing the best we can". People need hope. Even after a year of restrictions needed until we can combat this virus, there's too much negative language being used re people getting their lives back. What would it take to add some context that might give some home. All over 80s expected to be done in the next 4 weeks.... Why not tell us what % of hospital cases have been in this group for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, welshbairn said: More repeats of shite remakes then. In fairness, the Martians got done in by the common cold. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, renton said: In fairness, the Martians got done in by the common cold. We'll get our own back when Elon Musk nukes Mars to terraform it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Just having a read on BBC there... Despite all of my concerns being totally unfounded and disproved by facts, it seems that numerous journalists share them. It also seems that the First Minister is becoming uncomfortable under the light of responsibility for vaccine delivery, which is basically what I have been saying. I feel some degree of sympathy tbf. She has never once hidden away like the village idiot in London. But she is going to have to start adding detail to the vaccine rollout other than "we are doing the best we can". People need hope. Even after a year of restrictions needed until we can combat this virus, there's too much negative language being used re people getting their lives back. What would it take to add some context that might give some home. All over 80s expected to be done in the next 4 weeks.... Why not tell us what % of hospital cases have been in this group for example.This year is a write off, possibly next spring as well. No point trying to fight it. Will just do you in m80. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I presume the guy busking outside the City Chambers at lunchtime yesterday was taking his hour's exercise. There's actually less polis about it seems than before the lockdown was announced on MondayWhere do people get this hour from? There’s no time limit on exercise and there never has been 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Detournement said: It says at least i'd imagine because they are on a list Buzzfeed saw. It covers everywhere like a council ward. Compliance to rules is also likely pretty high. Take something like WeChat for example. Beyond the centralised intelligence gathering of communities that it offers, it also encourages certain behaviours via its sign up model. Basically, you can only sign up to WeChat once you have been vouched for by another user who has been on the platform for a given period and used it within the guidelines. So, anyone who flouts rules, whether on social media or in real life can quickly be tracked by WeChat for the government, and not just them - but the people around them and who signed them up for WeChat, and if one person is untrustworthy, well... what does that say about the person who signed them up? It encourages folk to shop each other to stop them coming under suspicion of various social ills. Just one small part of the larger social score metrics being rolled out across China. Most government surveillance on citizens is thus done by their fellow citizens. Really little surprise that centralised, authoritarian regimes are able to make the kind of quick, unpopular decisions that prevent democracies acting quickly. Edited January 7, 2021 by renton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 My favourite thing about this pandemic has been people who are out in towns or cities asking why other people are out in towns and cities.A wis at such n such the day and it wis MOBBED i tell ye! People just urny gettin the bloody message 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 It's taken until this week for me to know someone personally that has covid. 4 people in fact. All mixed at Christmas and received their positive test at the weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: 17 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Just having a read on BBC there... Despite all of my concerns being totally unfounded and disproved by facts, it seems that numerous journalists share them. It also seems that the First Minister is becoming uncomfortable under the light of responsibility for vaccine delivery, which is basically what I have been saying. I feel some degree of sympathy tbf. She has never once hidden away like the village idiot in London. But she is going to have to start adding detail to the vaccine rollout other than "we are doing the best we can". People need hope. Even after a year of restrictions needed until we can combat this virus, there's too much negative language being used re people getting their lives back. What would it take to add some context that might give some home. All over 80s expected to be done in the next 4 weeks.... Why not tell us what % of hospital cases have been in this group for example. This year is a write off, possibly next spring as well. No point trying to fight it. Will just do you in m80. See folk like you saying stuff like this, with absolutely no basis to say it, you genuinely are part of the problem. Absolutely buying into the amount of energy Nicola Sturgeon is putting into making sure folk dont have any expectations of her governments performance. If this year up until next Spring is a "write off" and theres no point in trying to fight it then I dread to think the state thousands and thousands of people will be in, in terms of health, mental health and life in general will be in. If you are happy to write off 2021 in January when we have 2 vaccines in hand, one approved and scheduled for spring delivery and several more seeking approval soon, then I guess that's up to you. But........ f**k me. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 It's taken until this week for me to know someone personally that has covid. 4 people in fact. All mixed at Christmas and received their positive test at the weekend.Between March and December I only knew 2 people. Between Christmas Day and today I’ve heard of 6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bendan Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Why not tell us what % of hospital cases have been in this group for example. They seem really reluctant to highlight this, though stats are published. Maybe they think giving under 40s/under 60s etc a clearer idea of their personal risk would encourage unsafe behaviour and lead to more transmission. Edited January 7, 2021 by bendan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I had my first vaccination a few weeks ago and Mrs Romeo is to have hers on Sunday as we are both front line health care. I find it very reassuring that we will both have some level of protection but I can see the 2nd jab after 12 weeks thing slipping big time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 A write of for what, re assessing your priorities in life? Change, adapt, survive rather than give up. People will need support, if you have any strength share it with others, even your sense of humour if you have one.No thats what I'm saying bairnardo keeps thinking that things will be like before within months. It will get better in the summer but not back to big crowds, holidays and pubs and nightclubs.Less restrictions and being able to feel safe and healthy is enough.The uk has made a complete mess of this and you cant expect things to magically change within weeks. Constantly being annoyed and frustrated is understandable but really what can you do?The more people refuse to adapt for a while the longer it will last. At least there's a vaccine but no doubt there will be problems with as well. I really gave up hope of things returning to normal because the respective governments did nothing between lockdowns. We should have been mass testing to get out of lockdown not letting the economy run the science.The population gets what it deserves for decades of acting selfishly and voting in shite like the tories or not even bothering to vote at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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