Jan Vojáček Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, AllSaint said: This is fair because as the last 12 months shows the Tories have clearly been held accountable for their actions. Wait...they’ve literally overseen 120k dead and their support continues to grow. They can say or do what they want and they will still win the next election. It's a weird situation all in really, because no matter how much they make a mess of things both the Tories and the SNP will win overwhelming landslides at the next elections. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, AllSaint said: This is fair because as the last 12 months shows the SNP have clearly been held accountable for their actions. Wait...they’ve literally overseen 7k dead and their support continues to grow. They can say or do what they want and they will still win the next election. Literally no difference 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: Literally no difference There is a difference, though. Many folk (myself included) will vote for the SNP as a means to an end. Folk vote for the Tories because that's the 'end' they want. There isn't an equivalence here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Buried on page 28 of the framework. I think this is a different approach to England. It is abundantly clear on the next few pages that we will not move through the 3 week stages if R is above 1. My worry is Jason & Swinney had the R at 1.3 when it was clearly below 1. Our approach will continue to be to: • suppress the virus through compliance, with physical distancing and hygiene measures, ensuring the reproduction number remains below 1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Gaz said: There is a difference, though. Many folk (myself included) will vote for the SNP as a means to an end. Folk vote for the Tories because that's the 'end' they want. There isn't an equivalence here. The "end" being Brexit. You may feel that your Scottish Nationalism is a better type of Nationalism than Brexit, but voting for either party recently essentially boils down to very similar things -9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Todd_is_God said: The "end" being Brexit. You may feel that your Scottish Nationalism is a better type of Nationalism than Brexit, but voting for either party recently essentially boils down to very similar things If what you say is true then the vote for the Tories would have dropped off after Brexit had been voted for. It didn't. It grew. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllSaint Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Literally no difference You’re mistaking me with someone who has ever voted for or even defended the SNP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Jan Vojáček said: Restrictions being loosened just before an election. Interesting. Oh you cynic, you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) "Freedom App". Like Operation Iraqi Enduring Freedom. This is never going to end. Sturgeon also made it sound inevitable. She was adamant that it wouldn't reduce access to public services but other than that it seems to be a fait accompli without a second of parliamentary debate. The UK and Israel have been well chosen as Guinea Pigs for this. Edited February 23, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gaz said: If what you say is true then the vote for the Tories would have dropped off after Brexit had been voted for. It didn't. It grew. The 2019 election was fought on a "Get Brexit Done" mantra. There hasn't been an election since. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, AllSaint said: You’re mistaking me with someone who has ever voted for or even defended the SNP. I'm not mistaking you for anything. Just showing how by changing the party and the number the exact same statement is true. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You can say what you like about it being Johnson and you don’t believe him etc but the fact is he put out something that had a clear end goal and an indicative timeline to hold him accountable against. And who is going to do that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 You’re mistaking me with someone who has ever voted for or even defended the SNP.Who do you vote for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Freedom app. Fucking hell. Who the f**k okays shit like this at the meetings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Any sort of "vaccine passport" for domestic usage can absolutely get to f**k. It is acceptable for going abroad and nothing else. It has an inevitable feeling of being imolemented due to business demands so they don't get sued because someone visited their premises, got covid and killed their granny by passing it on. Edited February 23, 2021 by Michael W 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Not sure a freedom app will work - so if your phone dies you canny get in anywhere? Much better to microchip us, that way we can always have it on us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Surely the microchips in every vaccinated person's bloodstream can be remotely programmed to cover this anyway? Edited February 23, 2021 by Boghead ranter 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 The 2019 election was fought on a "Get Brexit Done" mantra. There hasn't been an election since.This only works if Scots vote for independence and then the SNP run on a "Get Independence Done" ticket, during a transition period election. This hasn't happened (yet). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Much better to microchip us, that way we can always have it on us. I heard that's exactly what the vaccines are for... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, Boghead ranter said: Surely the microchips in every vaccinated person's bloodstream can remotely programmed to cover this anyway? Or, get every door in the world to only open for a microchipped/vaccinated person, a la shopping trollies can't cross the red lines outside supermarkets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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