MP_MFC Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Scenes when only nightclubs are exempt in hospitality from the 1m rule and every club that rebranded as a bar suddenly reverses back to a club along with every old mans pub and bowling club in the country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Really? You think refusing to wear a mask or get vaccinated is on par with being a Battle of Britain spitfire pilot? There’s at least 100,000 Brits who fully believe this I won’t be returning to nightclubs when they reopen. Mainly because I’m 30 and the noise is getting too loud for me now. As a 29 year old desperately clinging on to their youth please keep this negativity to yourself Rumours online that Biden is away to announce a stay at home order in America due to the Delta variant being out of control. People spent years calling The Purge franchise unrealistic and here we are America is potentially about force over a million of the poorest Americans out on the street while demanding everyone else stays in their home ostensibly safe and secure 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 I’m 34, married with two kids. I cant fucking wait to go to a shitty nightclub with my mates. All the better because I invariably spend the whole day saying I won’t end up there and then find myself at 4am crawling up the stairs after doing exactly the opposite. It would feel like almost a return to normal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 9 hours ago, mizfit said: Rumours online that Biden is away to announce a stay at home order in America due to the Delta variant being out of control. Doubt it. It's not affecting Democrat states as badly as they have higher vaccine uptake, and Republican governors won't enforce anything. There is already a lot of immunity from natural infection in the US and as we have seen here, it will peak eventually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Im finding it diffuclt to work out what the rules are at times for travelling. Hopefully someone here has an idea how it might be in near future. For Travelling from EU to Scotland when double vaccinated when both are countries green. Will it be no quarantine, no tests needed? and for kids 10 years old and younger will they require a test for going and after arriving or will it be same no quarantine no tests for them also? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, BigDoddyKane said: Im finding it diffuclt to work out what the rules are at times for travelling. Hopefully someone here has an idea how it might be in near future. For Travelling from EU to Scotland when double vaccinated when both are countries green. Will it be no quarantine, no tests needed? and for kids 10 years old and younger will they require a test for going and after arriving or will it be same no quarantine no tests for them also? You'll need a day 2 PCR, as will any other adults travelling, although there is no requirement for anyone to quarantine. The kids won't need to do the day 2 test. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said: Im finding it diffuclt to work out what the rules are at times for travelling. Hopefully someone here has an idea how it might be in near future. For Travelling from EU to Scotland when double vaccinated when both are countries green. Will it be no quarantine, no tests needed? and for kids 10 years old and younger will they require a test for going and after arriving or will it be same no quarantine no tests for them also? Yeah, I don't mean to sound like a Facebook ma' "it's all so complicated", but...it kinda is. I've got France booked in a few weeks to see family, France doesn't need a pre-departure test to let me in as I'll be double vaxxed but UK government website suggests I still need one. Nonsense. ETA - the UK is also by far the worst at this stuff, guessing to ensure the right Tory cronies get the profits. France the PCR tests are free, Croatia you just rock up on the day and it's like 10 euros, only here does this nonsense cost £90 a pop, home testing kits, hope the results arrive on time etc... Edited August 3, 2021 by Big Fifer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, Big Fifer said: the UK is also by far the worst at this stuff, guessing to ensure the right Tory cronies get the profits. France the PCR tests are free, Croatia you just rock up on the day and it's like 10 euros, only here does this nonsense cost £90 a pop, home testing kits, hope the results arrive on time etc... Actually Scotland is the worst. England has multiple options and prices for your return PCR, whereas Scotland only allows you to use a single company at one of the highest rates on the market. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: Actually Scotland is the worst. England has multiple options and prices for your return PCR, whereas Scotland only allows you to use a single company at one of the highest rates on the market. Aye, and this is another thing. Ryanair are punting these Randox testing kits, all done at home, and it's half the price of most of the others. My pals back from abroad and he used their pre-departure, but used the one the ScotGov website tells him when he came back as he was worried. One of our directors was in Spain a few weeks ago - used Randox for every test and he was fine. Naebdy actually knows what is allowed and what isn't, and more worryingly, I don't think any of these systems are integrated in any way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Big Fifer said: ETA - the UK is also by far the worst at this stuff, guessing to ensure the right Tory cronies get the profits. France the PCR tests are free, Croatia you just rock up on the day and it's like 10 euros, only here does this nonsense cost £90 a pop, home testing kits, hope the results arrive on time etc... Fully agree. Quite why we are so out of step and demanding that fully-vaxed passengers present a negative test is starting to look like an obscene joke. If other countries aren't asking for it, why are we insisting? It's presented under the guise of "keeping out variants". At the moment the only variant of note is comprising in excess of 99% of all UK cases. And moreover, our insistence on these tests did not keep the Indian variant as it was known then when we knew fine well about its existence. Great success! Oh, and there are no variants that the vaccines are ineffective against. I can accept that non-vaxxed passengers may need to submit tests and all the rest of it whilst we're at this stage, but that should be the end of it. It is just starting to look like an exercise in printing money and also another sneaky government deterrent to prevent people going on holiday by driving up costs and introducing hassle. Edited August 3, 2021 by Michael W 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Fifer said: One of our directors was in Spain a few weeks ago - used Randox for every test and he was fine. Naebdy actually knows what is allowed and what isn't, and more worryingly, I don't think any of these systems are integrated in any way. That’s really interesting to know. Not sure I’ve got the bottle to try it to save a few quid tho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: That’s really interesting to know. Not sure I’ve got the bottle to try it to save a few quid tho. Someone on here mentioned that a friend got stopped at Glasgow Airport with proof of a cheap test and was forced to buy the Scot Gov one on top. That's the only time I've heard of it and I suspect they messed up the landing form that includes the code for your day 2 test. Usually you just flash the QR thing and they let you through, there's no separate algorithm if you land in Scotland. P.S. Unfortunately I didn't know this when I forked out for the Scot Gov one. The website is as bad as that guy in Albufeira who does lower league scores and has insane pyramid ideas, and the helpline is the worst I've known, along with zero response to emails. The actual testing is fine though and they're very quick with the results. It's some corporate travel agency running it and it looks like they got an intern to cobble it together, but subcontracted the actual testing bit to people who know what they're doing. Edited August 3, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Fully agree. Quite why we are so out of step and demanding that fully-vaxed passengers present a negative test is starting to look like an obscene joke. If other countries aren't asking for it, why are we insisting? It's presented under the guise of "keeping out variants". At the moment the only variant of note is comprising in excess of 99% of all UK cases. And moreover, our insistence on these tests did not keep the Indian variant as it was known then when we knew fine well about its existence. Great success! Oh, and there are no variants that the vaccines are ineffective against. I can accept that non-vaxxed passengers may need to submit tests and all the rest of it whilst we're at this stage, but that should be the end of it. It is just starting to look like an exercise in printing money and also another sneaky government deterrent to prevent people going on holiday by driving up costs and introducing hassle. It's an utterly pointless exercise.The variants are already here - definitely a case of shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted.It feels more like a bureaucratic exercise intended to push the cost of international travel up and to deter people from travelling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 8 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: It's an utterly pointless exercise. The variants are already here - definitely a case of shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted. It feels more like a bureaucratic exercise intended to push the cost of international travel up and to deter people from travelling. The thing is, more variants absolutely will happen. If the vaccines remain effective against them, this should be no barrier to travel. We've laughed a bit on this thread about Australia and New Zealand slamming the borders shut, both in jest and also with a serious point behind it that they are essentially hiding from the virus. A sound enough if painful strategy when combined with a good vaccine rollout, but the former has made an utter mess of it. Meanwhile their measures did not keep the Delta variant out even if cases are low and it has provoked another series of very harsh lockdown measures that will continue for weeks or more likely months. This will continue to happen and we need to accept this moving away from this strange idea that we'll keep all variants out, especially against a backdrop of that not happening. Short of entirely sealing the borders shut, we will not keep future variants out of the UK entirely. And this from a country depressingly reliant on imports - it's an impossible ask we're trying to set. Build a strategy to manage it. New variant in outer Mongolia that has shown resistance? Ban travel and target measures there. New variant in Senegal that the vaccines work against? Accept this does not pose a substantial risk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just checked the UK_Centrist twitter feed to see what's going on in the land of fear. Long Covid is the story of the day. Lewis Hamilton and Piers Moron have said they have it, so we should all lockdown hard now to prevent people catching Covid and getting Long Covid. Hamilton and Morgan have clearly confused symptoms of long Covid with the much more common ones of being tedious c***s. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) Jeremy Clarkson criticises Covid scientists, saying ‘if you die, you die’ Quote “When it started, I read up on pandemics and they tend to be four years long,” he said. “I think the politicians should sometimes tell those communists at Sage to get back in their box. Let’s just all go through life with our fingers crossed and a smile on our face. I can see Boris doesn’t want to open it up and shut us back down again. But if it’s going to be four years … and who knows, it could be 40 years.” Or it could be for ever. “Well, if it’s going to be for ever, let’s open it up and if you die, you die.” Edited August 3, 2021 by scottsdad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Jeremy Clarkson criticises Covid scientists, saying ‘if you die, you die’ He's not wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Cabbage Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Finally grabbed my first dose of Moderna goodness today, 2 rescheduled appointments, 1 drop in and 1 positive covid test later, possibly the last P&B poster to join the club. With the exception of the detournement moon howlers ofc. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Quote That backlash came after a newspaper column in which he dismissed shot putting, diving and dressage as pointless fringe sports. Why do we care, he asked. “Nothing marks out a country’s minor-league standing more effectively than its pride in things that really don’t matter.” Both Olympic flag-shaggers and public health psychos reduced to a puddle of collective seethe in a handful of days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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