craigkillie Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 54 minutes ago, jagsfan57 said: Very good. I am still trying to find out why this vote was taken in the 1st place. Was it to allow prize money to be paid out early ? That has gone well. And who knew beforehand that there were 28 days to vote ? Nobody apart from the SPFL board and they decided not to pass that on. It's publicly available and part of the SPFL Articles of Association that every single club signed up for, and it was also clearly stated in the documents that the clubs received. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This is getting boring, we need more statements to spice things up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, craigkillie said: It's publicly available and part of the SPFL Articles of Association that every single club signed up for, and it was also clearly stated in the documents that the clubs received. There is no point trying to confuse him with facts. He has already decided what they are regardless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, JessieField said: Who will be the first teams to go bust then? Id guess a full time team from the Championship or top end of league 1. My hope is none will but the longer lock down and then a possible fans locked out or no games then i cannot see this ending well for some teams . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Say the distribution of money was somehow divorced then, from the idea of promotion/relegation etc. What sort of solution to those questions would be likely to be voted through? It's a genuine question. What do people think would appeal to the bulk of clubs? Would clubs gratefully switch to endorsing some sort of reconstruction, or would we still have a similar impasse? I can see it being very difficult getting any reconstruction pushed through. The wee clubs in the top league like Hamilton and St Johnstone would be in favour but the big clubs don’t want any more minnows who bring fuçk all fans like those two admitted. Pay out on current standings with no promotion or relegation would get through I feel because several clubs have already stated they’re a bit squeamish about relegating Hearts and Thistle, given how tight it is at the bottom of their leagues. Tough on Dundee United of course who’ve spaffed a fortune this season trying to get up but we shouldn’t seek to reward clubs who have spent recklessly and ultimately failed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Fifespud said: I can see it being very difficult getting any reconstruction pushed through. The wee clubs in the top league like Hamilton and St Johnstone would be in favour but the big clubs don’t want any more minnows who bring fuçk all fans like those two admitted. Pay out on current standings with no promotion or relegation would get through I feel because several clubs have already stated they’re a bit squeamish about relegating Hearts and Thistle, given how tight it is at the bottom of their leagues. Tough on Dundee United of course who’ve spaffed a fortune this season trying to get up but we shouldn’t seek to reward clubs who have spent recklessly and ultimately failed. Have we 'failed' though? We haven't had the chance to finish a competition, that we were winning, due to exceptional circumstances ending the season. There is a big leap to make between a season not ending and then branding that as 'failure' by any club. Equally you could argue with that logic that you are actually 'rewarding' other clubs who have been spending a fortune to avoid relegation, Hearts for example, despite the season not finishing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 You became Dundee United fans. In life you’ve already failed. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, Ad Lib said: You became Dundee United fans. In life you’ve already failed. Of course, that's a separate debate though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 There's to be a meeting at Hampden tomorrow, sure that'll clear everything up. Wait for a garbled statement this time tomorrow night clearing nothing up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, rb123! said: This is getting boring, we need more statements to spice things up Nonsense. What we need is more uninformed speculation, unconfirmed rumours and conspiracy theories. We need to stretch this out for as long as is possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Lowland League formally ended with Kelty declared champions and no relegation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad chad Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, Skyline Drifter said: Lowland League formally ended with Kelty declared champions and no relegation. Leading from the front. It'll be hard for the other leagues to do anything else now. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 No promotion or relegation, but whoever is top gets the title, the league placings stand and the appropriate cash is divided out. That's the fairest way. IMHO. Thank you. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 This has been the shitest day of the SPFLGate so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: Say the distribution of money was somehow divorced then, from the idea of promotion/relegation etc. What sort of solution to those questions would be likely to be voted through? It's a genuine question. What do people think would appeal to the bulk of clubs? Would clubs gratefully switch to endorsing some sort of reconstruction, or would we still have a similar impasse? Null and void would pass the easiest in that scenario. Only 4 clubs would give a shit in that scenario. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 I'm at least a bit clearer on the process now. It's not really a vote. It's a resolution requiring x %age to pass. Clubs have 28 days to agree to the resolution or it falls. In essence there is no such a thing as a 'no' vote only yes votes. So, once a yes has been received it can not be revoked. Clubs can indicate they will vote no but legally it doesn't mean anything. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: No promotion or relegation, but whoever is top gets the title, the league placings stand and the appropriate cash is divided out. That's the fairest way. IMHO. Thank you. If the title goes to the team in position 1 in the league, then they also get promoted. Quote C20 At the end of each Season the Clubs occupying positions 1 in the Championship (13 in the League), 1 in League One (23 in the League) and 1 in League Two (33 in the League) will be promoted to play and be eligible to participate in the Premiership, the Championship and League One respectively for the immediately succeeding Season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Just now, The DA said: If the title goes to the team in position 1 in the league, then they also get promoted. Not in my plan they don't. Thank you. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muggy Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Dundee Evening Tully 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 4 hours ago, bad chad said: Because it's fundamentally the same - I can't ask BT to return my cash for the services theyve provided - and that I've consumed - up to this point. BT also cant do this to the league - IN MY LIMITED OPINION. It's a good faith issue. We've supplied, they've consumed. You may be a Contract lawyer, and will therefore be far more knowledgeable than me on this, if so fair play. It could be that they had the rights to pick and choose up to a certain number of games for the completed 19/20 season, and completing the season means that the deal is complete - I don't know what the actual terms are. Voiding it might breach the contract in a way that declaring it complete doesn't. It will be down to the actual terms in the contract of what constitutes the rights of the broadcaster to games and what constitutes a breach of the contract. If the contract simply covers the season without stating what each match means financially, or a certain number of matches per week, then it would be very different to the type of contact the English Premier League has (which I think is to do with a number of matches per round). Without knowing what the contract actually states, it's impossible to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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