johnnydun Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 Fat Sally sticking his oar in - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-legend-ally-mccoist-demands-21863184.amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Explain your final point for me please. How can promotion on such a basis be "justified", when relegation can't? Promoting teams does not cause sporting disadvantage to anyone. Relegating teams does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, johnnydun said: Fat Sally sticking his oar in - https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rangers-legend-ally-mccoist-demands-21863184.amp He's absolutely right, tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Ad Lib said: Promoting teams does not cause sporting disadvantage to anyone. Relegating teams does. It causes massive advantage. Is that fairer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 The ammount of straw clutching 'Exclusives' coming out of the Record. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: It causes massive advantage. Is that fairer? Yes. Because sporting advantage doesn't impose major financial and structural harm on a football club, whereas sporting disadvantage sometimes does. Reconstruction decouples those two things, and has as its object and effect the mitigation of hard edged consequences of the league places arrived at. It is a justified response to the unique challenges presented by the failure to play out a full season as originally agreed to. Equally, Null and Void or ending the season but without either promotion or relegation would be a fair response but for other reasons is not being pursued. Edited April 14, 2020 by Ad Lib 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: If Scottish football loses the bookies where will they get sponsorship? They might need to go to Cartels. The Lyons League, The Daniels Scottish Cup. Netflix. This would be great show. 4 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: Promoting teams does not cause sporting disadvantage to anyone. Relegating teams does. So if Raith and Falkirk are currently offering the same player a deal via PCA, and Raith are promoted and get the player due to playing at a higher level, Raith didnt gain an on field advantage due to deciding to promote them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: Yes. Because sporting advantage doesn't impose major financial and structural harm on a football club, whereas sporting disadvantage sometimes does. We'll need to do away with relegation altogether then. You've a problem here. If your objection is to such decisions being made "off the pitch", then that must apply at both ends of the table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, Dee Man said: Literally nothing negative written by Dees between these 2 posts so you decided to make up what you wish Dundee fans were like with that desperate attempt at banter. There's nothing been announced yet. Settle the f**k doon. ^^^^ Not bothered. No, definitely not bothered in the slightest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, Ad Lib said: Yes but are YOU on furlough? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eibbod nehpets Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: If Scottish football loses the bookies where will they get sponsorship? They might need to go to Cartels. The Lyons League, The Daniels Scottish Cup. And the cup draws were live from HMP Saughton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, eibbod nehpets said: And the cup draws were live from HMP Saughton How do you get hot balls in Saughton? On second thoughts I don’t want to know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 You reckon the guy that wrote that ain't a tory fan considering the first 3 paragraphs are about slagging off the tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: We'll need to do away with relegation altogether then. You've a problem here. If your objection is to such decisions being made "off the pitch", then that must apply at both ends of the table. No we don't. The objection is to decisions being taken off the pitch that impose a significant sporting disadvantage on a club which was not known and agreed to at the beginning of the season. A team being relegated on the basis of an incomplete season imposes a significant and unfair sporting disadvantage. A team being relegated on the basis of a complete season imposes a significant and fair sporting disadvantage. A team being promoted on the basis of an incomplete season grants them a significant and unfair sporting advantage, not not (in itself) one that disadvantages other teams. A team being promoted on the basis of a complete season grants them a significant and fair sporting advantage. The difference is that one example of unfairness directly, tangibly and substantially harms a football club, whereas the other doesn't. As a member-based organisation the SPFL should be taking decisions in order to minimise unfair sporting disadvantage even if that means occasionally granting unfair sporting advantage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Yes but are YOU on furlough? No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar 2nd Tier Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: How do you get hot balls in Saughton? On second thoughts I don’t want to know. Showers and soap? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 14, 2020 Author Share Posted April 14, 2020 Just now, Ad Lib said: No. Good. I would be worried if you didn’t have something to occupy your time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 24 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: So if Raith and Falkirk are currently offering the same player a deal via PCA, and Raith are promoted and get the player due to playing at a higher level, Raith didnt gain an on field advantage due to deciding to promote them? Raith were put at an (arguably unfair) sporting advantage. Falkirk were not put at an (arguably unfair) sporting disadvantage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: Good. I would be worried if you didn’t have something to occupy your time. Not that it's any of your business but I'm currently looking after my terminally ill father, you absolute weapon. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.