Bairn in Exile Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) Football after the Coronavirus. Edited April 24, 2020 by Bairn in Exile 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Anybody seen the Herald's take on reconstruction? It's a cracker! OPINION_ SPFL restructure - Take an American approach, they have ‘route 66’ but here’s Scotland’s route 44 _ Falkirk Herald.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_H Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 33 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: Anybody seen the Herald's take on reconstruction? It's a cracker! OPINION_ SPFL restructure - Take an American approach, they have ‘route 66’ but here’s Scotland’s route 44 _ Falkirk Herald.html 779.85 kB · 21 downloads https://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/sport/football/opinion-spfl-restructure-take-american-approach-they-have-route-66-heres-scotlands-route-44-2547781 Heres the link instead of whatever you were trying to do 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 "Hi David, please put together a reconstruction plan that would see Falkirk promoted two divisions, even if it's a pile of unrealistic shite". 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, craigkillie said: "Hi David, please put together a reconstruction plan that would see Falkirk promoted two divisions, even if it's a pile of unrealistic shite". Sports editor? Mother of suffering fūck, what hope have we? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: Anybody seen the Herald's take on reconstruction? It's a cracker! OPINION_ SPFL restructure - Take an American approach, they have ‘route 66’ but here’s Scotland’s route 44 _ Falkirk Herald.html 779.85 kB · 19 downloads When you say "Cracker.." I take it you mean in a non complimentary way? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 36 minutes ago, G_H said: https://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/sport/football/opinion-spfl-restructure-take-american-approach-they-have-route-66-heres-scotlands-route-44-2547781 Heres the link instead of whatever you were trying to do I attached it in such a way intending that it would catch people's interest and therefore encourage them to seek the link out for themselves, meaning that they would be far more likely to read and pay attention to it. Or; I'm getting on in years and not very computer savvy. Either way, thanks for posting it properly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Scottydog said: When you say "Cracker.." I take it you mean in a non complimentary way? Aye, it's a bit dug's dinnerish that one. Mind you if, as expected, reconstruction is a temporary 1 year deal (if it even happens) then it would be quite fun and very interesting! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I see the SPFL has announced the finding of the investigation into the vote and found there was nothing improper about it and it was all above board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 8 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: I see the SPFL has announced the finding of the investigation into the vote and found there was nothing improper about it and it was all above board. Braw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 18 minutes ago, ShaggerG said: I attached it in such a way intending that it would catch people's interest and therefore encourage them to seek the link out for themselves, meaning that they would be far more likely to read and pay attention to it. Or; I'm getting on in years and not very computer savvy. Either way, thanks for posting it properly. I've already paid it more attention than it deserves.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: I see the SPFL has announced the finding of the investigation into the vote and found there was nothing improper about it and it was all above board. No improper behaviour but lots of idiocy, self-seeking greed and sheer incompetence. See page 2,908, Appendix iv for that part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottydog Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: No improper behaviour but lots of idiocy, self-seeking greed and sheer incompetence. See page 2,908, Appendix iv for that part. You mean on the part of the SPFL? Edited April 24, 2020 by Scottydog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, AL-FFC said: I see the SPFL has announced the finding of the investigation into the vote and found there was nothing improper about it and it was all above board. But the Rangers have evidence there was bullying,coercion and the likes Feck off 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Meanwhile in the Netherlands: The Dutch FA asked all the clubs to vote on how the season should end. It gave them three options: 1 The season is voided, no relegation or promotion, Euro places are allocated according to current league standings. 2 The season ends now, the bottom two clubs get relegated and the top two clubs in the second tier get promoted, Euro places are allocated according to current league standings. 3 The season ends now but no team is relegated. Two teams are still promoted and the Eredivisie has 20 teams next season instead of 18, Euro places are allocated according to current league standings. The FA instructed the clubs not to vote for option 3 because it would be too complicated. So the clubs were effectively being asked to vote on whether other clubs should be relegated or promoted. Someone leaked the email address the clubs could send their votes to and the computer system crashed as angry fans hurled abuse at the FA. Sixteen clubs voted in favour of relegation and promotion. Nine clubs voted in favour of no promotions or relegations and a further nine abstained. The FA in its wisdom ignored the outcome and decided there will be no promotions or relegations. There's democracy in action for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embow Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Cue lawyers for the non promoted clubs rubbing their hands together (after being washed and duly sanitised) in anticipation of a day or three in court. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airdrie76 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 But the Rangers have evidence there was bullying,coercion and the likes Feck offThey still say they do. Apparently it was a secret enquiry that the clubs weren’t aware of - and where the firm conducting it didn’t actually interview SPFL board members or individual clubs. Strange. What it did confirm is that a no vote was allowed to be changed. Not surprising given essentially it appears to have been an email trail check that’s been done.Meanwhile Holland null and void the league, something we were told was absolutely impossible (as impossible as being able to grant loans to the member SPFL clubs it would seem). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Who actually claimed that null and voiding the leagues was an impossible choice? The main argument against it is that it would be an unbelievably stupid conclusion and that it was never on the table because the vast majority of SPFL clubs already held this view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueone Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 hours ago, AL-FFC said: I see the SPFL has announced the finding of the investigation into the vote and found there was nothing improper about it and it was all above board. Has no one posted this yet? Couldn't see it. Friday, 24 April 2020 OPEN LETTER TO ALL SPFL CLUBS, THE MEDIA AND SUPPORTERS OF SCOTTISH CLUBS Dear All, You will all be aware of reports in the press, calling for an independent investigation and for the suspension of SPFL’s chief executive Neil Doncaster and SPFL’s legal counsel Rod McKenzie in relation to the resolution that enabled the payment of nearly £2 million to Championship, League One and League Two clubs. The focus of the questions raised in the press concerned the events of the evening of Friday 10 April, when Dundee FC attempted to return a voting slip to the SPFL in connection with the resolution. In order to ensure complete probity and independence during this process, on Thursday 16 April, Deloitte LLP, a leading global provider of audit and assurance services, was appointed by the SPFL’s independent non-executive directors to carry out a comprehensive and independent investigation into the factual chronology relating to Dundee FC’s return. Deloitte has completed its forensic investigation and the findings confirm the following sequence of key events on 10 April 2020. Sequence of key events on 10 April 2020. 1. An SPFL Board Meeting commenced at 17:00 on Friday 10 April 2020. At the start of the meeting 38 returns had been identified as received, and 1 further return was received during the meeting at 17:10, bringing the total number of returns to 39. Ladbrokes Premier: 10 returns in favour, 1 against Ladbrokes Championship: 7 returns in favour, 2 against Ladbrokes Leagues One and Two: 16 returns in favour, 3 against It was noted during the meeting that one vote remained outstanding from the Premiership, one from the Championship, and one from Leagues One and Two. 2. The Board meeting concluded at around 17:15. 3. At 17:15, Neil Doncaster called Dundee FC Managing Director, John Nelms, and left a message asking whether Dundee FC intended to submit a return. 4. At 17:39, Neil Doncaster had a conversation with John Nelms and confirmed that as far as he knew, no vote had been returned from Dundee FC. John Nelms thought Dundee FC’s vote may have been returned, but would make enquiries. 5. At 17:50, Eric Drysdale (Dundee FC Club Secretary) spoke to Iain Blair (SPFL’s Company Secretary and Director of Operations) asking whether Dundee FC’s return had been received. Iain Blair confirmed that it had not. 6. At 18:00, a text was received by Iain Blair, from Eric Drysdale, intimating that the Dundee FC vote should not be considered as cast. 7. At around 20:30, Ian Blair accessed the SPFL’s email quarantine system (which is a feature of the email system operated by a separate third party) at the suggestion of Rod Mackenzie and identified an unread email from Eric Drysdale that had been sent at 16:48 on 10 April 2020. Iain Blair released the quarantined email and it appeared in his SPFL email inbox at 20:55. Prior to identifying the quarantined email at around 20:30, no one from the SPFL had seen the email from Eric Drysdale. Deloitte’s examination of phone records, mobile communications (including texts) and email data has identified no evidence of improper behaviour by SPFL personnel concerning the submission of the Dundee FC vote. I hope that Scottish football will now focus on the significant issues that face our game, otherwise many clubs may not survive this period. We will have to be forward-thinking, and work collegiately to quickly present ideas and proposals to Scottish Government and others which will enable Scottish football to recover and progress. Make no mistake, this is a critical time for all clubs, and we must concentrate on what is important to the future of our game. Yours faithfully, Karyn McCluskey SPFL Independent Non-Executive Director For Background Karyn McCluskey worked in numerous police forces for 23 years, latterly as Head of Intelligence Analysis for Strathclyde Police. She helped set up the international-recognised Scottish Violence Reduction Unit, where she was Director until 2016. She is a Fellow of the Faculty of Public Health. She sits on the boards of the homeless charity The Simon Community, Medics Against Violence and The Centre for Justice Innovation. It's on the official PFC Facebook page. https://tinyurl.com/y9l2szfx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBrian Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, blueone said: Has no one posted this yet? Couldn't see it. Friday, 24 April 2020 OPEN LETTER TO ALL SPFL CLUBS, THE MEDIA AND SUPPORTERS OF SCOTTISH CLUBS Dear All, You will all be aware of reports in the press, calling for an independent investigation and for the suspension of SPFL’s chief executive Neil Doncaster and SPFL’s legal counsel Rod McKenzie in relation to the resolution that enabled the payment of nearly £2 million to Championship, League One and League Two clubs. The focus of the questions raised in the press concerned the events of the evening of Friday 10 April, when Dundee FC attempted to return a voting slip to the SPFL in connection with the resolution. In order to ensure complete probity and independence during this process, on Thursday 16 April, Deloitte LLP, a leading global provider of audit and assurance services, was appointed by the SPFL’s independent non-executive directors to carry out a comprehensive and independent investigation into the factual chronology relating to Dundee FC’s return. Deloitte has completed its forensic investigation and the findings confirm the following sequence of key events on 10 April 2020. Sequence of key events on 10 April 2020. 1. An SPFL Board Meeting commenced at 17:00 on Friday 10 April 2020. At the start of the meeting 38 returns had been identified as received, and 1 further return was received during the meeting at 17:10, bringing the total number of returns to 39. Ladbrokes Premier: 10 returns in favour, 1 against Ladbrokes Championship: 7 returns in favour, 2 against Ladbrokes Leagues One and Two: 16 returns in favour, 3 against It was noted during the meeting that one vote remained outstanding from the Premiership, one from the Championship, and one from Leagues One and Two. 2. The Board meeting concluded at around 17:15. 3. At 17:15, Neil Doncaster called Dundee FC Managing Director, John Nelms, and left a message asking whether Dundee FC intended to submit a return. 4. At 17:39, Neil Doncaster had a conversation with John Nelms and confirmed that as far as he knew, no vote had been returned from Dundee FC. John Nelms thought Dundee FC’s vote may have been returned, but would make enquiries. 5. At 17:50, Eric Drysdale (Dundee FC Club Secretary) spoke to Iain Blair (SPFL’s Company Secretary and Director of Operations) asking whether Dundee FC’s return had been received. Iain Blair confirmed that it had not. 6. At 18:00, a text was received by Iain Blair, from Eric Drysdale, intimating that the Dundee FC vote should not be considered as cast. 7. At around 20:30, Ian Blair accessed the SPFL’s email quarantine system (which is a feature of the email system operated by a separate third party) at the suggestion of Rod Mackenzie and identified an unread email from Eric Drysdale that had been sent at 16:48 on 10 April 2020. Iain Blair released the quarantined email and it appeared in his SPFL email inbox at 20:55. Prior to identifying the quarantined email at around 20:30, no one from the SPFL had seen the email from Eric Drysdale. Deloitte’s examination of phone records, mobile communications (including texts) and email data has identified no evidence of improper behaviour by SPFL personnel concerning the submission of the Dundee FC vote. I hope that Scottish football will now focus on the significant issues that face our game, otherwise many clubs may not survive this period. We will have to be forward-thinking, and work collegiately to quickly present ideas and proposals to Scottish Government and others which will enable Scottish football to recover and progress. Make no mistake, this is a critical time for all clubs, and we must concentrate on what is important to the future of our game. Yours faithfully, Karyn McCluskey SPFL Independent Non-Executive Director For Background Karyn McCluskey worked in numerous police forces for 23 years, latterly as Head of Intelligence Analysis for Strathclyde Police. She helped set up the international-recognised Scottish Violence Reduction Unit, where she was Director until 2016. She is a Fellow of the Faculty of Public Health. She sits on the boards of the homeless charity The Simon Community, Medics Against Violence and The Centre for Justice Innovation. It's on the official PFC Facebook page. https://tinyurl.com/y9l2szfx And they call this a comprehensive and independent investigation! The one crucial piece of information missing in the report - what was in the email that the SPFL recieved at 16:48 from Dundee FC? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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