Shadwell Dog Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Going by their statement its reconstruction or the courts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FREDDYFRY Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I hope then that they are all true to their word. Parts of Ann Budge’s latest statement: "Hearts will shortly submit a member’s resolution that we believe is a pragmatic solution to the issues the game currently faces and a way forward that the clubs can unite behind. It is our belief that this resolution, if supported, will provide an opportunity to avoid disproportionately disadvantaging - financially and otherwise - any club. Mrs Budge I draw your attention (and SPFL) to the last sentence and indeed the last 2 words in the paragraph!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, FREDDYFRY said: I hope then that they are all true to their word. Parts of Ann Budge’s latest statement: "Hearts will shortly submit a member’s resolution that we believe is a pragmatic solution to the issues the game currently faces and a way forward that the clubs can unite behind. It is our belief that this resolution, if supported, will provide an opportunity to avoid disproportionately disadvantaging - financially and otherwise - any club. Mrs Budge I draw your attention (and SPFL) to the last sentence and indeed the last 2 words in the paragraph!!! Exactly this. I understand Hearts are raging, its perfectly valid to feel like that. However this is about self interest. Ann Budge gives zero fucks as to who comes out of this disadvantaged, as long as it isn't Hearts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hearts down to league 2 just to annoy Anne Budge, please. Falkirk and Edinburgh City can be promoted to square things up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 This season's Scottish cup continues into next season with what will be totally different squads.This will include Hearts who will then have trimmed their squad to championship numbers and quality.Sporting integrity my arse! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, haufdaft said: This season's Scottish cup continues into next season with what will be totally different squads. This will include Hearts who will then have trimmed their squad to championship numbers and quality. Sporting integrity my arse! Looks like either reconstruction now or a lengthy legal battle. Could end up being the 2019/2021 scottish cup.at this rate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Suspect that Hearts may go for an interdict to prevent the leagues starting until their substantive case has been heard, which will unlikely be before early 2021 given the current backlog in the courts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hearts dont have a chance of winning any legal battle, the SPFL laws seem to state the season can be ended before 38 games if theres no alternative, and a vote to end it early was passed democratically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hearts to properly expelled from the league and play a 36-leg playoff fixture against Kelty Hearts or Broara Rangers for the duration of season 2020-21. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hearts dont have a chance of winning any legal battle, the SPFL laws seem to state the season can be ended before 38 games if theres no alternative, and a vote to end it early was passed democratically. Looking at the SPFL's behaviour thoughtout this whole process, I'd be surprised any QC worth his salt couldn't find enough for legal action.Also as I've said previously, I doubt many of the SPFL officials will be happy to give evidence under oath.I'll not be surprised if the SPFL will cave in and have reconstruction to save Hearts, Thistle and Stranraer from relegation.The resultant disadvantaged clubs in league one won't have enough money for legal action and will be shafted.Sporting integrity? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Hearts down to league 2 just to annoy Anne Budge, please. Falkirk and Edinburgh City can be promoted to square things up. At last common sense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) It's in the SPFL regulations that the season can be called early by the board. The clubs voted for that, then a healthy majority voted against the prospect of investigating the SPFL's handling of the situation. I'm not really sure what Hearts expect to gain from legal action other than an attempt to force through reconstruction. Surely they don't genuinely think they have a case they can win? Edited May 18, 2020 by CALDERON 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CALDERON said: It's in the SPFL regulations that the season can be called early by the board. The clubs voted for that, then a healthy majority voted against the prospect of investigating the SPFL's handling of the situation. I'm not really sure what Hearts expect to gain from legal action other than an attempt to force through reconstruction. Surely they don't genuinely think they have a case they can win? Difficult to say unless we know all the facts. I still think this reconstruction revisited could simply be a ruse to make sure top flight teams get their prize money before hearts take legal action otherwise that couldve been blocked too which couldve put some really in the shitter. Edited May 18, 2020 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, haufdaft said: Looking at the SPFL's behaviour thoughtout this whole process, I'd be surprised any QC worth his salt couldn't find enough for legal action. Also as I've said previously, I doubt many of the SPFL officials will be happy to give evidence under oath. I'll not be surprised if the SPFL will cave in and have reconstruction to save Hearts, Thistle and Stranraer from relegation. The resultant disadvantaged clubs in league one won't have enough money for legal action and will be shafted. Sporting integrity? They wouldn't. No rules were broken. Clubs had a vote. The disproven 'bullying and coercion' nonsense has been laughed out of focus. There's no illegality in lobbying. Dundee, as per the rules of the SPFL, were perfectly entitled to do what they did with their vote. There won't be any reconstruction. Hearts know this and are just playing to their fanbase and also hoping that some folk will fall for their very shitty and transparent bluff. No one will, or at least no major decisions, most notably reconstruction, will happen because of their bluff. They'll eventually release a statement saying some stuff about how "now is not the time" and how they "need to focus as a club to get back to the Premiership". No doubt they'll take some bitter shots, but that will be the extent of their action once they've been called and shown to have nothing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I’m so fed up hearing of how Hearts have been hard done by. They had significantly more budget than the teams around them yet were 4 points adrift. They had an appalling season, and they DESERVE to go down..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Dundee, as per the rules of the SPFL, were perfectly entitled to do what they did with their vote. That's one of the many things I'm sure will be up for debate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 That's one of the many things I'm sure will be up for debate.I think it’s a case of no rules were broken, but the ‘rules’ themselves are somewhat shady...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, haufdaft said: That's one of the many things I'm sure will be up for debate. Except it won't. No rules were broken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 I think hearts are deadly serious about legal action this time. I dont think.budge is bluffing at all. If you were leaving yourself open to changing your mind you wouldnt tell everyone that legal costs were going to be a lot less than the costs of relegation. Long way to go on this if you ask me unless 6 clubs fold on reconstruction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haufdaft Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Except it won't. No rules were broken.I think it’s a case of no rules were broken, but the ‘rules’ themselves are somewhat shady......If that's true its interesting that both Thistle and Rangers QCs say there's a reasonable chance of success in challenging the actions of the SPFL.I don't claim to be a legal expert but I assume they know what they're talking about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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