Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Specky Ginger said: It's going to end in abject humiliation for either The Rangers or Neil Doncaster. Win-win. Sit back with the popcorn and enjoy the movie. As usual it boils down to Old Firm pish. Doncaster is basically Lawell’s mouthpiece and him and Rangers don’t get on. As you say though one of them has made a c**t of themselves which will make it hilarious when one is outed as a liar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/rangers-football-club-statement/These sorts of concerns should be raised in private. Clearly this is just dog-whistling to their fan base. Will likely lead to a charge for bringing the game into disrepute. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Judge said: It’s about time the Spl, sfa were reconstructed also with independent board rather than what happens now. What a shambles and not surprised in the slightest. Key. The only way to avoid any of this in future is for an independent body to be governing football for the benefit of ALL. Never happen as those at the top in any current season will never release their hold on power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Just to play devils advocate here - there’s a lot of chat of “promote the top 2 and don’t relegate anyone”. Arguably 2,3 and 4 all have a pretty much equal chance of going up via the playoff. Why not promote the top 4 without relegation. 16 team top league which is easier to run than 14. It's not ideal. It's a fudge to say that promoting Falkirk is less unfair than relegating Partick Thistle. Practically, it makes sense to stop at 2, rather than 4. 2nd place would only be promoted as a practical fix that allows the vote to pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Gordon EF said: Pay out whatever proportion of the minimum prize money the SPFL has right now for each league. Have they paid out any money to any league? Why not take the total pot of prize money and do an even split between all 4 divisions, just this year because of extraordinary reasons. Then either call it or say it will 100% be finished at some point, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, EdinburghBlue said: These sorts of concerns should be raised in private. Clearly this is just dog-whistling to their fan base. Will likely lead to a charge for bringing the game into disrepute. Nearly as bad as publishing voting numbers before a votes finished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, EdinburghBlue said: These sorts of concerns should be raised in private. Clearly this is just dog-whistling to their fan base. Will likely lead to a charge for bringing the game into disrepute. Agree completely. There is surely a process to be followed if they have a grievance. Amateurish approach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Romeo said: Have they paid out any money to any league? Why not take the total pot of prize money and do an even split between all 4 divisions, just this year because of extraordinary reasons. Then either call it or say it will 100% be finished at some point, Come on sir do you think the top flight would consider that? As much chance of that as da I'd macmillan winning the ballon bloody d'or. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Agree completely. There is surely a process to be followed if they have a grievance. Amateurish approach. Going by that they did raise it and he ignored them before sending them an email telling then to shut it. I would have thought a grievance of this seriousness would deserve more than that. Edited April 11, 2020 by Shadwell Dog 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantene proV Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 They cant pay any money for the leagues until they are sure they're not going to play any more games. That's why they have to vote for some resolution first 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Lecturer Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 I might be wrong here but wasn’t it the Inverness chairman that came out with it first? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Shadwell Dog said: Going by that they did raise it and he ignored them. Aye, just re-read it. Sounds like you are right. If it’s true mind you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 Haven't really being following this but would I be right in thinking that Rangers and Dundee's main motivation in this is to stop Celtic and Dundee Utd from winning their respective titles? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Romeo said: Have they paid out any money to any league? Why not take the total pot of prize money and do an even split between all 4 divisions, just this year because of extraordinary reasons. Then either call it or say it will 100% be finished at some point, I don't know how much has been paid to any clubs. But clearly, as the implication is that voting yes to this week's proposal means a cash release, there's cash to release. Honestly, it doesn't matter a huge deal how the payment is structured. If there is serious danger of clubs going to the wall without prize money before the summer then first priority should absolutely be getting that money to clubs. Everything else can be dealt with after as it's simply not as urgent as the money issue. Any competent leadership of any organisation working in good-faith would realise this and sort the immediate issue of prize money first. Once clubs are in a less precarious financial position, then other issues can be dealt with. To attempt to conflate all these issues and threaten clubs with not receiving their own money unless they vote for a particular proposal on how to end the season is an absolute disgrace and they SPFL should have been roundly told to f**k off by the clubs and sort out the money issue first. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, pantene proV said: They cant pay any money for the leagues until they are sure they're not going to play any more games. That's why they have to vote for some resolution first What's to stop them changing that through a vote? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantene proV Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 They need to finalise the leagues first somehow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gordon EF said: What's to stop them changing that through a vote? Exactly. Just now, pantene proV said: They need to finalise the leagues first somehow No reason they couldnt agree to end the leagues and pay out prize money. No need to have all promotion and relegation decisions though agreed now to do that. Belgian league ended their season but have yet to decide on what happens with relegation/promotion for instance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 League Reconstruction My proposal is this: Tier 1: 14 teams, and a split involving the top six and bottom eight clubs. Sides will play each other home and away before and after the split. The sides in the top six will play fewer games, but they will be more likely to progress in the cups, be playing in Europe and will usually be playing the bigger clubs (Old Firm, Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen). Tier 2: 14 teams, and a 6/8 split, too. Same formay as Tier 1. The top two getting automatic promotion and the other four involved in play-offs will compensate for playing fewer games than the bottom eight. Tier 3: Would be regionalised - less travel, more local derbies. Again, I would include 14 clubs in each with the same format as above. At the end of the season the top side from each league would be promoted and the sides finishing third, fourth and fifth in each league will play a knock out tournament, with the winner being promoted also. Any thoughts, modifications, criticism welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Reverend said: League Reconstruction My proposal is this: Tier 1: 14 teams, and a split involving the top six and bottom eight clubs. Sides will play each other home and away before and after the split. The sides in the top six will play fewer games, but they will be more likely to progress in the cups, be playing in Europe and will usually be playing the bigger clubs (Old Firm, Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen). Tier 2: 14 teams, and a 6/8 split, too. Same formay as Tier 1. The top two getting automatic promotion and the other four involved in play-offs will compensate for playing fewer games than the bottom eight. Tier 3: Would be regionalised - less travel, more local derbies. Again, I would include 14 clubs in each with the same format as above. At the end of the season the top side from each league would be promoted and the sides finishing third, fourth and fifth in each league will play a knock out tournament, with the winner being promoted also. Any thoughts, modifications, criticism welcome. You can FRO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, pantene proV said: They need to finalise the leagues first somehow They do under the current rules. But the current rules also say, for example, clubs in 2nd-4th positions in League One go into a play-off and each club plays every other club home and away twice. What i'm saying is, if clubs can vote to change some rules, what's stopping them voting to change others? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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