craigkillie Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 You could at least make them play in a round including the worst runner ups. (Unseeded) You'd still need to start the season a week earlier to squeeze that in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 minute ago, craigkillie said: 21 minutes ago, parsforlife said: You could at least make them play in a round including the worst runner ups. (Unseeded) You'd still need to start the season a week earlier to squeeze that in. Well no, given there are enough midweeks + a completely unnecessary gap in fixtures in January. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: 5 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: work the fixtures around it. you should not be able to win a trophy by winning 4 games, also get prem teams in the scottish cup a round or 2 earlier as 5 games to win the major cup competititon is also too few There are two midweek rounds for the League Cup, the only way to "work the fixtures around it" is to start the season a fortnight earlier, which is basically going into June. Christ use your imagination a bit, its 4 games ffs how can folk just shrug their shoulders and say och its too hard, especialy when theres talk of changing the league format. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: 5 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: work the fixtures around it. you should not be able to win a trophy by winning 4 games, also get prem teams in the scottish cup a round or 2 earlier as 5 games to win the major cup competititon is also too few There are two midweek rounds for the League Cup, the only way to "work the fixtures around it" is to start the season a fortnight earlier, which is basically going into June. Or start with weekend only league cup ties and start the leagues in late August or September as they did in the early 80s . This would only be possible if they went down to leagues of 16 and binned the winter break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, realmadrid said: Or start with weekend only league cup ties and start the leagues in late August or September as they did in the early 80s . This would only be possible if they went down to leagues of 16 and binned the winter break. That sounds monumentally shite in just about every possible way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Christ use your imagination a bit, its 4 games ffs how can folk just shrug their shoulders and say och its too hard, especialy when theres talk of changing the league format. There is absolutely no need to throw everything out of kilter in order to shoehorn 4 Euro representatives into the groups of the Betfred Cup FFS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 That's my point. The competition works fine as it is - some more competitive pre-season games for the other clubs, including guaranteed fixtures against "bigger" opposition for the lower league sides, and then the Euro representatives join at exactly the same stage that they've joined at for 20+ years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Id only be looking for a change if we cut the league from 38 games to 34 or 30 games Mid week (including Fridays) games are a pain when you work full time and id be happy with 30 league games if they were all on Saturdays or Sundays and we had no winter break. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, realmadrid said: Id only be looking for a change if we cut the league from 38 games to 34 or 30 games Mid week (including Fridays) games are a pain when you work full time and id be happy with 30 league games if they were all on Saturdays or Sundays and we had no winter break. ££££ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Hadn’t read any of this thread until now, mainly as it’s a pointless discussion and there won’t be any league reconstruction. But boredom is rife so I gave it a whirl. What a lot of bollocks getting spouted by several on here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Football's cyclical but judging from your random (sic) use of words you'll find this hard to understand. He is sort of correct though Supporters of other clubs do have cause to feel jealous of St Johnstone fans. Not because they support St Johnstone but because they support St Johnstone now. You’ll be too young to have seen Alan Gilzean just as there are precious few hearts fans left with first hand memories of the great ‘58 side. For folllowers of Celtic no amount of trebles is going to compare to Lisbon ‘67 but for saints fans the glory days are now and they’re living them. This is it Toddlers in Perth today will grow up to be as sick of their dad’ going on about Stevie May and Dave Mackay as Aberdonian 20 something’s must be of Strachan and Miller but for the generation of Saints fans who saw the likes of Steven McLean in his prime they will feel lucky 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: He is sort of correct though Supporters of other clubs do have cause to feel jealous of St Johnstone fans. Not because they support St Johnstone but because they support St Johnstone now. You’ll be too young to have seen Alan Gilzean just as there are precious few hearts fans left with first hand memories of the great ‘58 side. For folllowers of Celtic no amount of trebles is going to compare to Lisbon ‘67 but for saints fans the glory days are now and they’re living them. This is it Toddlers in Perth today will grow up to be as sick of their dad’ going on about Stevie May and Dave Mackay as Aberdonian 20 something’s must be of Strachan and Miller but for the generation of Saints fans who saw the likes of Steven McLean in his prime they will feel lucky Exactly this. Being one of the best clubs in the country over a decade, winning a Scottish Cup with a squad full of loyal players, and having a home grown striker smashing goals in, and then returning. That's as good as it gets for most clubs in Scotland, and that's as good as it gets for St Johnstone fans. I'll accept St Johnstone being called a second tier side when that comes about again, and it will, but just now we're anything but. P.S. I'll be the most boring b*****d alive in 5p years. Telling grandkids about how great Callum Hendrys goal per minutes ratio was in 2019/20. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: P.S. I'll be the most boring b*****d alive in 5p years. That is fucking bizarre and unnecessary use of the future tense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: P.S. I'll be the most boring b*****d alive in 5p years. Telling grandkids about how great Callum Hendrys goal per minutes ratio was in 2019/20. A shilling says you're right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 hours ago, craigkillie said: That's my point. The competition works fine as it is - some more competitive pre-season games for the other clubs, including guaranteed fixtures against "bigger" opposition for the lower league sides, and then the Euro representatives join at exactly the same stage that they've joined at for 20+ years. Doesn't mean it was any better then either. 30- 4 league games + playoffs tops, everyone in the groups for the league cup. top16 in the Scottish cup earlier. plenty veriety , fair competitions and nae fixture congestion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinner-to-Saint Posted April 11, 2020 Author Share Posted April 11, 2020 My proposal is this: Tier 1: 14 teams, and a split involving the top six and bottom eight clubs. Sides will play each other home and away before and after the split. The sides in the top six will play fewer games, but they will be more likely to progress in the cups, be playing in Europe and will usually be playing the bigger clubs (Old Firm, Edinburgh clubs and Aberdeen). Tier 2: 14 teams, and a 6/8 split, too. Same formay as Tier 1. The top two getting automatic promotion and the other four involved in play-offs will compensate for playing fewer games than the bottom eight. Tier 3: Would be regionalised - less travel, more local derbies. Again, I would include 14 clubs in each with the same format as above. At the end of the season the top side from each league would be promoted and the sides finishing third, fourth and fifth in each league will play a knock out tournament, with the winner being promoted also. Any thoughts, modifications, criticism welcome. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftk Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 After today's vote league reconstruction looks a real possibility. What league set up do fans want? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 12-10-10-10 works for me. Why change ? Oh of course, otherwise Hearts get deservedly relegated. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Going up by 2 teams won't make much of a difference, 18 team top league playing each other twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santheman Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ftk said: After today's vote league reconstruction looks a real possibility. What league set up do fans want? Maybe in the lower Leagues in which case you're in the wrong forum Edited April 15, 2020 by santheman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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