Aim Here Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Ric said: I believe the deliberation time began at when the witnesses and closing legal arguments had been made, which going by my reckoning had been done by late Wednesday, early Thursday. Could be wrong, of course. I dunno. If you look at the hearings for the motion to sist/discover/dismiss, the final parts of the hearing were in the morning, the oral ruling was at 2pm, and the fully-written up, detailed and dense 16-page pdf ruling was available before 3pm that same day. There's no way that Lord Clarke didn't have at least significant parts of that ruling ready to go and written up before the parties had finished speaking. Edited July 24, 2020 by Aim Here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Just now, Aim Here said: I dunno. If you look at the hearings for the motion to sist/discover/dismiss, the final parts of the hearing were in the morning, the oral ruling was at 2pm, and the fully-written up, detailed and dense 16-page pdf ruling was available before 3pm that same day. There's no way that Lord Clarke didn't have at least significant parts of that ruling ready to go and written up before the parties had finished speaking. I take your point but that was a much narrower outcome (ie: whether to proceed to a full hearing or go to arbitration) and he had complete autonomy. Although I do agree that the majority of their deliberations will have already been written. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I wish they'd hurry up I'm going out for dinner. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I wouldn't worry about the written decision. That'll be done later. In the first instance I would simply expect the decision to be given orally to the parties with a fuller written statement of reasons to follow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Pull My Strings said: I wouldn't worry about the written decision. That'll be done later. In the first instance I would simply expect the decision to be given orally to the parties with a fuller written statement of reasons to follow. I suspect it's going to be a tough one for Hearts to swallow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said: I suspect it's going to be a tough one for Hearts to swallow. Reported for misogyny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 This has just turned into a big group chat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Lets me honest the likes of Neil Mccann are guessing as much as we would be about the significance of any evidence. I mean it could well be extremely significant but its not like they have a clue!McCann showing what a fanny he is in The Sun - 20 minutes ago.https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5849665/hearts-partick-thistle-hampden-arbitration-neil-mccann/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Positive, sometimes. Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: McCann showing what a fanny he is in The Sun - 20 minutes ago. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5849665/hearts-partick-thistle-hampden-arbitration-neil-mccann/ He gives it the big I am on Sportsound and gives it "I always keen to talk up our Scottish game" and on the Podcast he does try to do that but then he's doing articles like that Fuckin wee man syndrome eh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) He's absolutely desperate for Budge to give him a job Edit for not being able to bring myself to spell "Budge" correctly Edited July 24, 2020 by Mark Connolly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith_94 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 McCann showing what a fanny he is in The Sun - 20 minutes ago.https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/5849665/hearts-partick-thistle-hampden-arbitration-neil-mccann/And David Irvine with an entry for the terrible journalism thread with that first sentence. Which is where I stopped reading. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 A parachute payment isn't compensation for the season being terminated early, it's a payment that clubs always get when they're relegated and is therefore essentially part of the prize money for finishing 12th. Clubs who were in the play-off spots also got their usual compensation for finishing in those spots, so why would they deserve any extra?Perhaps I was not clear - the point is that if Hearts and Thistle get compensation then surely any other team that has been "unfairly" affected should also be compensated.I don't believe that any team should be getting compensated.Not one fucking penny. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: He's absolutely desperate for Budge to give him a job Edit for not being able to bring myself to spell "Budge" correctly Here - "Successful Business Woman" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Reported for misogyny No gender was implied, so I'm going to report you for misogyny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Coventry Saint said: No gender was implied, so I'm going to report you for misogyny. I use "thou" pronouns, not"you", but we should probably stop this before it gets silly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 37 minutes ago, Mr Positive, sometimes. said: This has just turned into a big group chat No one has mentioned The Polyphonic Spree. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Aim Here said: I dunno. If you look at the hearings for the motion to sist/discover/dismiss, the final parts of the hearing were in the morning, the oral ruling was at 2pm, and the fully-written up, detailed and dense 16-page pdf ruling was available before 3pm that same day. There's no way that Lord Clarke didn't have at least significant parts of that ruling ready to go and written up before the parties had finished speaking. He'll have had it ready and read from it when he was giving his ruling. He'll have had a couple of wee dictations in for a transcriptionist to batter out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 For entertainment value I'm kind of hoping the panel find some aspect of Company Law that they can't find a precedent for and have to send it back to the Court of Sessions to deal with. No idea what powers the panel have but I'd imagine they'd be wary of being found to have judged unlawfully on appeal, if that's possible. It was quite fun listening in to the proceedings on the phone last time even though I couldn't understand half of what they were on about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Has 8braincellstogo not been back to tell us that the games have been synthesized on his version of FM and Hearts, in fact, won all the remaining games by an average of 8-0 Then they’ve gone on to win the League Cup, Scottish Cup (twice!) and both Premiership and Championship in 2020/21.Seems reasonable [emoji849] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 18 hours ago, 8GamesToGo said: Apart from contact closed doors games that have been happening in Scotland since July 11th. So they haven't banned games. Glad we sorted that out. Everyone is so tense. Could the penny finally be dropping that you backed the wrong horse in this whole thing? So you think you can go from a three month lockdown to playing games in a couple of weeks? The SPFL have been working with the government, health authorities, players unions etc to have a stepped, risk based approach to playing again. They all agreed on the 1st august date last month and have been working to that. The health of the players and staff is the most important factor, not pissing of relegated hearts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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