D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 f**k it, get it voted through. We can then introduce colt teams and a rule that says teams with a certain level of turnover cannot be relegated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 20 hours ago, Bazil85 said: No I know the national team is only one part of it, it is the only bit though that should be relevant to any buy-in for a number of teams and this absolutely doesn't benefit the national team. At a push I could get behind a combined plan "let us put colts in and we will agree rules at the same time meaning clubs will have to play X number of homegrown players in starting 11s by 2025 with a minimum period of 15 years" There isn't really an argument that Celtic have players good enough to progress Scotland to where we need them, that spell in isolation doesn't negate the fact our best players right now & often in the past aren't Celtic players and a team that can't make an impact in Europe isn't going to have players good enough to regularly getting Scotland competing where we need to. It is beyond doubt if Scotland wants to progress it MUST develop better players than we regularly see for any SP club. Time would tell how many fans follow through on it if it was voted through (fortunately I doubt it will be and we don't need to find out) but I rest assured I will be requesting a full refund on my season ticket, cancelling my fan membership & I wont be back, I would be surprised if I was the only one. The point is more fans feeling so strongly about it means it should be voted down by the clubs chairman. Dumbarton and Sonstrust is a great example. 89% fans against. The cash incentive also shouldn't be a replacement for fans attending, that is very unethical and will alienate fans. I hope so regarding Christie but the odds aren't in his favour when you look at other players at Celtic over the years. We need a core squad of players playing/ wanted at much higher levels. I think restricting clubs and managers to who they can pick and who can't is a bit to radical whether it's at the top of the league or the bottom. Andy Robertson got his first cap then he was at Dundee utd to say the level he played at isn't good enough is wrong,it's not about the level the player plays at it's the individual ability that makes players international quality,Darren Fletcher played in a great Man Utd team but his individual quality didn't help Scotland get to a major tournament. For me it's too easy to say Celtic players are not good enough for international football. I know about the backlash of fans from the last time this proposal was put forward but we both agree that the status quo must change not just to improve the national team but also to improve the level of Scottish football. For me we are very close to making a major tournament but maintaining that will be the problem. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEETHING Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Mr. X said: There is not a meme nor even a group of memes that exists, that could get close to adequately portraying the level of smugness that I will feel when this is concluded in Hearts favour. Rest assured that a St Mirren supporters opinion of Hearts reputation doesn't even register on the Give-the-slightest-f**k-o-meter. This will be glorious. It's happening, boiz. Get ready. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Graft Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, ftk said: Why are we all obsessed with splits? Most leagues in Europe dont and they are happy enough without having constant tedious reconstruction talks. 16 team leagues 30 games. No meaningless games as playoff fixtures for European/promotion/relegation places. Make up the shortfall in league games with champions league style Scottish Cup. Another guaranteed 6 games. No old firm 4 games but tough titties! If that is the problem have a Sky Bigot Cup involving both cheeks over 2 legs and then you have your 4 games that all Britain is desperate to see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Quite happy to let Hearts stay up on the condition that all the jammy wearers that have joined recently promise to go back to kickback. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zing. Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stationers1874 said: If hibs had been in that position us kickback boys wouldnt celebrate it like a 5-1 scottish cup final win over our derby rivals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEETHING Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Quite happy to let Hearts stay up on the condition that all the jammy wearers that have joined recently promise to go back to kickback. Been here since 2011 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4mmy31 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: f**k it, get it voted through. We can then introduce colt teams and a rule that says teams with a certain level of turnover cannot be relegated. or we could just get a wealthy fan to bring £47k to the table for every SPFL member club then we'll waive your relegation...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Just now, SEETHING said: Been here since 2011 I wasn't particularly talking about you tbh, at least you're capable of producing some decent patter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationers1874 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: I wasn't particularly talking about you tbh, at least you're capable of producing some decent patter. Think i will stick around for a week or so yet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnstoun Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, SEETHING said: Been here when we win since 2011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 If Hearts do succeed in begging their way back into the Premiership, what terminology would their fans prefer ? Unrelegated or unexpelled ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEETHING Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wilbur said: If Hearts do succeed in begging their way back into the Premiership, what terminology would their fans prefer ? Unrelegated or unexpelled ? Natural Order 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wilbur said: If Hearts do succeed in begging their way back into the Premiership, what terminology would their fans prefer ? Unrelegated or unexpelled ? Bobby Ewing in the shower 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Can’t see all these early celebrations from the Hearts lads back firing, at all. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenHibee Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Surely the permanent reconstruction deal is off the table as well? Ann Budge categorically stated before she only wanted temporary reconstruction, not permanent. Being such a woman of principle, I am assuming she would vote NO to such a motion, meaning 11 other clubs would have to vote YES. Or is she willing (again) to lie, cheat and bribe her way to a stay of execution in the Scottish Premiership? Desperate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Stationers1874 said: Think i will stick around for a week or so yet Hope you got permission from your mum then m9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenHibee Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Wilbur said: If Hearts do succeed in begging their way back into the Premiership, what terminology would their fans prefer ? Unrelegated or unexpelled ? "Brown-enveloped". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Grass Is Greener. said: Can’t see all these early celebrations from the Hearts lads back firing, at all. I was OK when I thought it might work out but probably wouldn't I'm beginning to get a little bit nervous 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stationers1874 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Hope you got permission from your mum then m9. Oh dear and this was you passing comment on decent patter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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