Green Day Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, pansjambo said: I believe they are served a copy of petition as a courtesy because if relegation was overturned they would be affected as there would be no place for them to be promoted too...unless there was reconstruction. Contrary to popular belief Hearts did not serve papers on them involving them in court case,they served papers on SPFL They received a copy of the petition not as a courtesy, but because the success of the Hearts / PTFC petition has implications for them financially. Regardless of how the papers arrived at these 3 clubs, the potential result for these 3 clubs is dreadful.............and anyone arguing otherwise is a fucking walloper. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansjambo Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Green Day said: They received a copy of the petition not as a courtesy, but because the success of the Hearts / PTFC petition has implications for them financially. Regardless of how the papers arrived at these 3 clubs, the potential result for these 3 clubs is dreadful.............and anyone arguing otherwise is a fucking walloper. So are the implications of relegation by vote not a potentially dreadful result for other clubs ? But I will agree that you are a fucking walloper -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 23 minutes ago, LincolnHearts said: Genuine questions. A) How do you know this? B) Who'd be picking up the bill? A) Because it's not mentioned in the petition document and because Hearts and Thistle outright said so in their statements when initiating the petition B) If Hearts/Thistle win, the compensation will be paid by the SPFL, which basically means it comes out of the prize money for the teams, since pretty much all that the SPFL does is take TV and sponsorship revenue and turn it over to the teams in the form of prize money, minus the overhead costs of running the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebowski Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 So are the implications of relegation by vote not a potentially dreadful result for other clubs ? But I will agree that you are a fucking walloperRelegation by being bottom of the league. The votes were to potentially stop Hearts relegation. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, pansjambo said: So are the implications of relegation by vote not a potentially dreadful result for other clubs ? But I will agree that you are a fucking walloper Many will agree....................but as previously mentioned whatever happens to Hearts, Dundee Utd shouldnt suffer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, pansjambo said: So are the implications of relegation by vote not a potentially dreadful result for other clubs ? But I will agree that you are a fucking walloper You shouldn't have been 4 points adrift at the bottom of the league when it was curtailed by a global pandemic, a decision later confirmed by Hearts in an unanimous vote by the Premier League clubs, including HMFC. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansjambo Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Green Day said: Many will agree....................but as previously mentioned whatever happens to Hearts, Dundee Utd shouldnt suffer. with that I agree. Hearts intentions are not to punish United,Raith or Cove,. The simple answer would have been reconstruction to avoid any team being financially hammered. But that aint happening so we are where we are Edited June 27, 2020 by pansjambo -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, pansjambo said: I believe they are served a copy of petition as a courtesy because if relegation was overturned they would be affected as there would be no place for them to be promoted too...unless there was reconstruction. Contrary to popular belief Hearts did not serve papers on them involving them in court case,they served papers on SPFL It's not a courtesy. The remedy sought will have serious implications for them and so they are entitled to be notified so that they can make representations to the court. Edit: I'd be fairly certain that Hearts' agents did serve notice on the affected clubs. They certainly should have done. Edited June 27, 2020 by Pull My Strings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, pansjambo said: Hearts intentions are not to punish United,Raith or Cove and yet............................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnHearts Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, Aim Here said: A) Because it's not mentioned in the petition document and because Hearts and Thistle outright said so in their statements when initiating the petition B) If Hearts/Thistle win, the compensation will be paid by the SPFL, which basically means it comes out of the prize money for the teams, since pretty much all that the SPFL does is take TV and sponsorship revenue and turn it over to the teams in the form of prize money, minus the overhead costs of running the league. So lots of teams would lose/have to pay out a few bob? All pisstaking and 'bantz' aside, there are surely going to be several teams who don't pull through. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 2 hours ago, big al said: The Maureens is hilarious You know, a lot of people keep asking about 'The Maureens' and wanting it back. A lot of good people. I think the nickname is going to come back in a big way this season, on a scale this forum has never seen before. That's just my opinion but we'll see. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aim Here Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Just now, LincolnHearts said: So lots of teams would lose/have to pay out a few bob? All pisstaking and 'bantz' aside, there are surely going to be several teams who don't pull through. Possibly. Worst case scenario is that Hearts and Thistle get the full £10 million they claim, and it's imposed on the clubs in one go, meaning next season's prize pool is ~60% of what it normally would be. For a team like Motherwell, the League Prize money was ~20-30% of their income last season so this would sting a bit. Smaller teams are harder to gauge because CompaniesHouse accounts filings are less transparent for small companies. I can't imagine that the 40 other teams would be willing to let a big dunt on the prize money pass without some sort of consequences. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, LincolnHearts said: All pisstaking and 'bantz' aside, there are surely going to be several teams who don't pull through. They all seem to be surviving fine just now, as much as Hearts fans seem absolutely fucking desperate for clubs to die. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenHibee Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) I think, in response to the disgusting vitriol from the supporters and ownership of HOMFC (and for dragging our game through the dirt), all SPFL clubs who voted to end the season early democratically in the face of a global pandemic/biggest threat to our game ever should boycott Tynecastle Park for the foreseeable future. The £8m compensation claim and court action is a complete slap in the face to us all, but collectively we can deal so much more damage to them than they ever could do to us. Edited June 27, 2020 by AberdeenHibee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big al Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said: Have you got a telly yet? Didn’t realise I was waiting on 1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorky Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, pansjambo said: with that I agree. Hearts intentions are not to punish United,Raith or Cove,. The simple answer would have been reconstruction to avoid any team being financially hammered. But that aint happening so we are where we are Hearts only wanted the best for Scottish football, as long as they got what they wanted. We are now told by the fanbase that because they did not get what they wanted they want Scottish football to die and as many clubs as possible to go out of existence simply because they failed to vote in their favour. I take Hearts good intention towards other clubs with a very big pinch of salt given many of the things that have been said. Hearts were looking out for number one exactly the same way every other club does, they just feel unable to admit it. It is however only Hearts supporters wishing the very worst on everyone else highlighting every single club who are struggling through the pandemic and wishing them gone and that’s not to their credit. I don’t have an issue with Hearts feeling hard done by even though they were without doubt the worst team in the division, it’s the behaviour of many of their fans that won’t be forgotten. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, AberdeenHibee said: I think, in response to the disgusting vitriol from the supporters and ownership of HOMFC (and for dragging our game through the dirt), all SPFL clubs who voted to end the season early democratically in the face of a global pandemic/biggest threat to our game ever should boycott Tynecastle Park for the foreseeable future. The £8m compensation claim and court action is a complete slap in the face to us all, but collectively we can deal so much more damage to them than they ever could do to us. If the SPFL hadn't fiddled the Dundee vote I'd agree with you. Edited June 27, 2020 by The_Kincardine -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: If the SPFL hadn't fiddled the Dundee vote I'd agree with you. Aye, that was all in "the dossier" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 The letter may say that any compensation will have to come from the clubs in the proportion that they were awarded prize money at the end of the season, Hearts are now scared that Celtic are coming for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 33 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: If the SPFL hadn't fiddled the Dundee vote I'd agree with you. Oh......I'm positively tumescent that one of the Sevco massive deigns to offer his totally ITK opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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