Twinkle Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 United should be taking Hearts to court, if we are being honest. All their bullshit talk about trying to block our promotion can have a detrimental effect on our recruitment for the new season. How can we buy players or offer wages etc if this is hanging over us? Also, some player may want to join but only if we are playing in the top league. Bottom line, get these Jambos to f**k 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Twinkle said: United should be taking Hearts to court, if we are being honest. All their bullshit talk about trying to block our promotion can have a detrimental effect on our recruitment for the new season. How can we buy players or offer wages etc if this is hanging over us? Also, some player may want to join but only if we are playing in the top league. Bottom line, get these Jambos to f**k Can we bin this gibberish please? The number of folk who have no clue about the law talking about suing each other is as depressing as it is hilarious. As far as I can make out, Hearts seem to be arguing that the decision to promote and relegate teams is irrational or unreasonable. But that is a high test at common law, requiring the petitioner to show the decision is "so unreasonable that no reasonable decision-maker could have made it" within the parameters of their discretion. My own opinion (without seeing the petition) is that they don't have a hope in hell. Edited June 19, 2020 by ArabFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 54 minutes ago, ArabFC said: Can we bin this gibberish please? The number of folk who have no clue about the law talking about suing each other is as depressing as it is hilarious. As far as I can make out, Hearts seem to be arguing that the decision to promote and relegate teams is irrational or unreasonable. But that is a high test at common law, requiring the petitioner to show the decision is "so unreasonable that no reasonable decision-maker could have made it" within the parameters of their discretion. My own opinion (without seeing the petition) is that they don't have a hope in hell. Yeah it's an odd angle to take given they are members of the league and 81% of the league (including them) agreed to the action. I see we've joined the statement squad within the last hour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGafraidh Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) Statement in the fishal https://www.dundeeunitedfc.co.uk/news/6494/JOINT-STATEMENT-FROM-DUNDEE-UNITED-FOOTBALL-CLUB-RAITH-ROVERS-FOOTBALL-CLUB-AND-COVE-RANGERS-FOOTBALL-CLUB.html?key=dufc&utm_campaign=coschedule&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=dundeeunitedfc On Wednesday Dundee United, Raith Rovers and Cove Rangers were served with a petition lodged in the Court of Session by fellow SPFL member clubs, Heart of Midlothian and Partick Thistle, which, if successful, could prevent our clubs’ promotions, and potentially have catastrophic financial implications for every SPFL member club as well. Whilst we are extremely unhappy that we have been drawn into this legal action, we can confirm that we immediately instructed external lawyers to act on our behalf and to protect our clubs’ interests. Since the SPFL resolution was passed by 81% of member clubs on 15th April 2020, which confirmed us all as title winners who were to be promoted, we have undertaken extensive and costly preparations for a new season in new leagues, including obtaining major financial commitments from our supporters, business partners and stakeholders. Our removal from those leagues would be ruinous on and off the field. We have each had a highly successful season, brought to a premature end by something bigger than our clubs and bigger than our sport. Our status as champions of our respective leagues is not being contested, and nor should the promotion which has always, and should always, come with it. The legal action that has been raised by Heart of Midlothian and Partick Thistle not only threatens the financial stability of the SPFL, but also its individual member clubs. For all of these reasons, we must and will robustly defend our position. As legal proceedings are now underway, we intend to make no further comment on the matter at this time. Edited June 19, 2020 by MacGafraidh Url 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 hours ago, ArabFC said: Can we bin this gibberish please? The number of folk who have no clue about the law talking about suing each other is as depressing as it is hilarious. As far as I can make out, Hearts seem to be arguing that the decision to promote and relegate teams is irrational or unreasonable. But that is a high test at common law, requiring the petitioner to show the decision is "so unreasonable that no reasonable decision-maker could have made it" within the parameters of their discretion. My own opinion (without seeing the petition) is that they don't have a hope in hell. Looks like somebody took Sarto up on his suggestion to google Wednesbury Unreasonableness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Looks like somebody took Sarto up on his suggestion to google Wednesbury Unreasonableness. Not guilty m’lord 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, ArabFC said: Not guilty m’lord Res ipsa loquitur, imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAVIDB69 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Everything that happened before could see a court case though , the Dundee vote nonsense , the suspicious letter to UEFA before any vote. As a United fan I was never celebrating till we had fixtures , as I knew this would come back at some point . There is little chance of the season starting 1st August 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 20 minutes ago, DAVIDB69 said: There is little chance of the season starting 1st August Nice to see you've moved on. In the past two months you've claimed Sky would walk away from the 20/21 deal, they would refuse to pay out for the 19/20 season, that reconstruction will be forced through by the SPFL board, that almost every team will go bust, that no fans will go to games next season. I'm fairly sure you've also been claiming, multiple times, that the SPFL will face compensation fees that will see most teams go bust aswell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannadeechee Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, DAVIDB69 said: Everything that happened before could see a court case though , the Dundee vote nonsense , the suspicious letter to UEFA before any vote. As a United fan I was never celebrating till we had fixtures , as I knew this would come back at some point . There is little chance of the season starting 1st August Why? What exactly was wrong with the Dundee vote? As per SPFL rules only Yes votes count. If Dundee's vote was yes then it would have stood. As the clubs had 28 days to vote and the 7 days was a request but not enforceable, again as per SPFL rules it was allowed. The issue with it not being received in time is not untoward. Having worked in ICT for over 20 years including with these types of mail systems, this happens all the time and is not unheard of or unbelievable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 9 hours ago, DAVIDB69 said: Everything that happened before could see a court case though , the Dundee vote nonsense , the suspicious letter to UEFA before any vote. As a United fan I was never celebrating till we had fixtures , as I knew this would come back at some point . There is little chance of the season starting 1st August You sit in the GF Lower, don't you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Do we get all of the £10M if we stay down? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DAVIDB69 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 You sit in the GF Lower, don't you?It varies but more yes than not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Hows your weekend been lads? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Hows your weekend been lads?Fine, why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartyftd1 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Haha good one! Fucking roasters! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 If Neilson goes back to Hearts now he should change his name to James Keatings by deed poll. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 @Granny Danger has been trying to broker this deal since he conspicuously disappeared. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabFC Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Would Neilson be likely to want to return to Hearts? Maybe, aye. If they bump his pay I don't see why not - he's got more of a connection to them than us. If they do, I'd bring back Sir Craig of Levein. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 It now seems to be the Sun vs Daily Record. Sun - Deal close to being done.Record - United reject approach. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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