Jump to content

George Floyd/Black Lives Matter Protests


Recommended Posts

Are there really 10,000 people that have nothing better to do with their lives than watch BGT, let alone 10,000 people that are willing to admit they watch it?  Frightening!


Most of them won’t have watched it, the number of complaints has gone up as reports of the complaints have come out. Also, it smuch easier to complain now than it used to be. If everyone has to physically write a letter and then walk to a postbox to send it, no-one would complain about anything. They could show amputee dwarf porn on CBeebies and most people would be too lazy to do that.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

England and Australia now being criticised for not doing the knee thing in their upcoming ODIs. England and Pakistan were criticised previously for not doing so.

I've got no beef with anyone who wants to do so. But I don't see what's helpful about a blanket criticism of anyone refusing to do so.

We're talking about a protest movement started around events in America. Why should it be a commentable thing for the cricket teams of Australia, Pakistan, and England not to do this? Why is this being applied to sports people disproportionately? What about others in the public sphere? Do we expect newsreaders to take a knee before kicking off News at Ten? What about the cast of Eastenders before each episode?

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/sep/10/michael-holding-condemns-england-and-australia-for-not-taking-a-knee

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's fast becoming similar to wearing a poppy. If you're not doing it voluntarily, then you damn well should be doing it and you'll be hounded until you do.
Its utterly pathetic. Let people just play their sport without anything else on the agenda. If they want to take a knee, go for it. If they don't, that doesn't mean they're a racist nazi.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 hours ago, ICTChris said:

 


Most of them won’t have watched it, the number of complaints has gone up as reports of the complaints have come out. Also, it smuch easier to complain now than it used to be. If everyone has to physically write a letter and then walk to a postbox to send it, no-one would complain about anything. They could show amputee dwarf porn on CBeebies and most people would be too lazy to do that.

 

Link?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, JTS98 said:

England and Australia now being criticised for not doing the knee thing in their upcoming ODIs. England and Pakistan were criticised previously for not doing so.

I've got no beef with anyone who wants to do so.

I wonder which is worse. Criticising people for not taking a knee, or destroying their careers, denouncing them as traitors, boycotting their sponsors and issuing death threats for doing so.

I'm glad you have no beef with anyone who takes a knee because there's a shit-ton of angry, violent people who do.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

42 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I wonder which is worse. Criticising people for not taking a knee, or destroying their careers, denouncing them as traitors, boycotting their sponsors and issuing death threats for doing so.

I'm glad you have no beef with anyone who takes a knee because there's a shit-ton of angry, violent people who do.

I don't really see the point in that post.

Since I'm not denouncing anyone as a traitor. I'm not boycotting anyone's sponsor. I'm not issuing anyone a death threat.

I'm just questioning the sanity of criticising basically any other country in the world (or a sports team representing one) who doesn't conform to the political norms of the USA.

And what's so special about sports teams? Why do they absolutely have to follow this new convention? Why not newsreaders? Why not politicians before any speech? Why not literally every public event? Why sport?

It's possible to be critical of one viewpoint without completely endorsing the lunatic fringe of the opposite viewpoint. Your response is akin to a Celtic fan replying to criticism of their fans' behaviour with 'Well what about the huuunnnzzz'.

Edited by JTS98
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, JTS98 said:

Your response is akin to a Celtic fan replying to criticism of their fans' behaviour with 'Well what about the huuunnnzzz'.

I wondered if you would take that line. But as you 'don't see the point of the post', I'll spell it out.

It's my belief that you were drawing our attention to Michael Holding's comments to once more make the point that "the left" are imposing their beliefs on everyone else. I'm pointing out that this example is mind-numbingly trivial compared to the hatred oozing from the right. And while I'll admit I'm coming at it from a different perspective, being in the US, I can assure you that what happened to Colin Kapaernick was not from the 'lunatic fringe." That was and is, supported by every mainstream conservative.  Freedom lovers all.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I wondered if you would take that line. But as you 'don't see the point of the post', I'll spell it out.

It's my belief that you were drawing our attention to Michael Holding's comments to once more make the point that "the left" are imposing their beliefs on everyone else. I'm pointing out that this example is mind-numbingly trivial compared to the hatred oozing from the right. And while I'll admit I'm coming at it from a different perspective, being in the US, I can assure you that what happened to Colin Kapaernick was not from the 'lunatic fringe." That was and is, supported by every mainstream conservative.  Freedom lovers all.

But why does Colin Kaepernick's protest against police brutality in the USA have anything to do with the cricket teams of England, Pakistan, and Australia? It should be pointed out that these are all multi-racial/multi-ethnic teams and coaching staffs.

Why should they be criticised for not joining in? Why is it absolutely incumbent on them to do so? Why does this apply to them but not newsreaders or tv soap actors?

Edited by JTS98
Link to comment
Share on other sites

But why does Colin Kaepernick's protest against police brutality in the USA have anything to do with the cricket teams of England, Pakistan, and Australia? It should be pointed out that these are all multi-racial/multi-ethnic teams and coaching staffs.
Why should they be criticised for not joining in? Why is it absolutely incumbent on them to do so? Why does this apply to them but not newsreaders or tv soap actors?
Some of it is virtue signaling and good PR.

If people want to do it then its OK, I still don't see what it will achieve tbh.
Bigger things need change and its just a meaningless gesture. Why not donate money to racism charities or causes instead?
Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Some of it is virtue signaling and good PR.

If people want to do it then its OK, I still don't see what it will achieve tbh.
Bigger things need change and its just a meaningless gesture. Why not donate money to racism charities or causes instead?

I find it bizarre that cricket players from a country like Pakistan, riven with divisions and injustices of its own, and whose players come from disparate ethnic groups and often have grown up or lived abroad as minorities themselves, can be criticised for not seeing it as a priority to signal their solidarity with a political movement of a country that is often at loggerheads with their own, and which many Pakistanis (and their government) see as the main destabilising force in their neighbourhood.

It's a special kind of ignorance that demands that this is an issue the Pakistanis should be pumped up about.

And, anyway, they're fucking cricket players. Why do they have a responsibility to involve themselves at all? They're just playing some fucking ODIs!

Edited by JTS98
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...