welshbairn Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 hours ago, JTS98 said: England and Australia now being criticised for not doing the knee thing in their upcoming ODIs. England and Pakistan were criticised previously for not doing so. I've got no beef with anyone who wants to do so. But I don't see what's helpful about a blanket criticism of anyone refusing to do so. We're talking about a protest movement started around events in America. Why should it be a commentable thing for the cricket teams of Australia, Pakistan, and England not to do this? Why is this being applied to sports people disproportionately? What about others in the public sphere? Do we expect newsreaders to take a knee before kicking off News at Ten? What about the cast of Eastenders before each episode? https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/sep/10/michael-holding-condemns-england-and-australia-for-not-taking-a-knee England's response will be in the next issue of Private Eye. Quote “Our response to the Black Lives Matter debate has been to view the issue alongside the whole inclusion and diversity space, to ensure that long-term and sustainable change happens for all communities who are not treated equally. We remain committed to this philosophy. “England’s men’s and women’s players all remain committed to using their reach and influence to keep promoting inclusion and diversity in perpetuity, for the betterment of cricket and sport. We understand the importance of symbolism, and its power to keep an issue high on the agenda, our goal is to ensure we deliver both reach and change.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: England's response will be in the next issue of Private Eye. It's a ridiculous statement, no doubt. Proper PR-speak. The question is why they have to say anything at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, JTS98 said: It's a ridiculous statement, no doubt. Proper PR-speak. The question is why they have to say anything at all. They didn't have to, it was just one cricketer talking on Sky. Michael Holden isn't an official spokesman for BLM. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: They didn't have to, it was just one cricketer talking on Sky. Michael Holden isn't an official spokesman for BLM. And I never said he was. However, his criticism of these teams receiving a sympathetic ear in a major national (really international) newspaper is worthy of mention. It's also been carried by Sky, The Telegraph, and news sources around the world. It is literally a global news story that some cricket teams are not kneeling down before playing cricket. That is ridiculous and calling it so is fair. Edited September 11, 2020 by JTS98 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Minority Report. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, JTS98 said: I find it bizarre that cricket players from a country like Pakistan, riven with divisions and injustices of its own, and whose players come from disparate ethnic groups and often have grown up or lived abroad as minorities themselves, can be criticised for not seeing it as a priority to signal their solidarity with a political movement of a country that is often at loggerheads with their own, and which many Pakistanis (and their government) see as the main destabilising force in their neighbourhood. It's a special kind of ignorance that demands that this is an issue the Pakistanis should be pumped up about. And, anyway, they're fucking cricket players. Why do they have a responsibility to involve themselves at all? They're just playing some fucking ODIs! Are you not aware you're living in 21st century Britain It became the same with the poppies a few years ago Anyone who didn't wear a poppy became the devil 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Little person or child? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Detournement said: Little person or child? Bairnardo, up to no good as usual... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 11/09/2020 at 09:03, welshbairn said: England's response will be in the next issue of Private Eye. Pseuds Corner? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, Detournement said: Little person or child? It's their time to stand up without a beer crate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I’d say that taking the knee is a more pertinent and understandable bit of “virtue signalling” than our teams wearing a poppy. Professional sports teams bring people of different colours and backgrounds together to work as a, eh, team. Making a stance against intolerance and racism is a good thing. The poppy used to be a dignified nod to those who suffered in WW1. Now it’s the polar opposite of taking the knee IMO, the way it has been adopted by the far right (or whatever more palatable sobriquet they’ve given themselves so they can sleep at night). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 14 hours ago, welshbairn said: It's their time to stand up without a beer crate. BLM protesters blocked the entrance to the hospital stopping ambulances from entering whilst shouting ‘we hope they die’. America is fucked. Yes there is an issue with racism in their police, there’s lots of fucking huge issues with their police, its reflective of the massive issues in their entire society. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 American cops might be thick, racist c***s but posting from beyond the grave is pretty impressive imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 21/09/2020 at 21:13, Day of the Lords said: American cops might be thick, racist c***s but posting from beyond the grave is pretty impressive imo. Carl le Ellis Blount who is serving life without parole? That one? Entirely similar issue to the impunity with which the police act. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 https://www.newsweek.com/officer-hit-bullet-ambush-shot-himself-police-1533849?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: https://www.newsweek.com/officer-hit-bullet-ambush-shot-himself-police-1533849?amp=1&__twitter_impression=true Malfeasance in office 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 It wouldn't surprise me if the two Louisville cops that got shot yesterday were at it as well. In the UK a police officer has been killed by someone who pulled out a gun while being detained in Croydon detention centre. My own memories of getting lifted are a bit hazy but I'm I sure I had cuffs on right until I went into the cell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Waldo Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: It wouldn't surprise me if the two Louisville cops that got shot yesterday were at it as well. The person who got arrested shot the police in front of multiple witnesses, was in possession of a handgun and the shooting is on video. Not biased at all, are you? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Waldo said: The person who got arrested shot the police in front of multiple witnesses, was in possession of a handgun and the shooting is on video. Not biased at all, are you? Aye I don't like the police. Well deduced Barbrady. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 https://www.channel4.com/programmes/grayson-perrys-big-american-road-trip/on-demand/69466-001 Decent viewing on the subject of race. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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