FairWeatherFan Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: That was why I asked the question. Wasn't pretending to know the answer. Although, your answer is in the past tense so maybe ours is the worst after all. Also, the scenario you described, although awful still allows for a scenario where all four of those winners could still go up. Ours only allows for one, regardless of anything else. It's a lot harder to find leagues where the bottom team(s) aren't relegated that's for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man from the East Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Lokloyal said: Yes we need to be delivering on the park where it has for some time been so near so far which isn’t good enough. However off the park having a local authority which simply has no interest in the club means that infrastructure issues and projects are a real struggle -it is disappointing when clubs in other local authority areas seem to get backing from their Councils. Why should the local Authority be the main source of infrastructure improvements? I’d much rather the LA financed homes and health and if they were to provide financial support - it would be for job creation and sustainability. Clubs may have to do more to help themselves. some will some won’t, some are capable, some aren’t. In football it’s cyclical. Look at previous big clubs who are floundering,,,, why does that happen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beithboy Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Man from the East said: Why should the local Authority be the main source of infrastructure improvements? I’d much rather the LA financed homes and health and if they were to provide financial support - it would be for job creation and sustainability. Clubs may have to do more to help themselves. some will some won’t, some are capable, some aren’t. In football it’s cyclical. Look at previous big clubs who are floundering,,,, why does that happen? Nobody has said they should be be the main source of funds for improvements, however some clubs have had their local authority give them money to help with upgrades, floodlights for example which is a great expense. In the small rural towns in Ayrshire the clubs are seen as part of the community and that's why (some) have been granted funds to upgrade their facilities promote involvement within the community. But it depends where you are and what authority you fall into. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man from the East Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, beithboy said: Nobody has said they should be be the main source of funds for improvements, however some clubs have had their local authority give them money to help with upgrades, floodlights for example which is a great expense. In the small rural towns in Ayrshire the clubs are seen as part of the community and that's why (some) have been granted funds to upgrade their facilities promote involvement within the community. But it depends where you are and what authority you fall into. Don’t you think that having that safety net makes clubs look for the easy option? Then when the LA has tight budgets, football clubs will be the last thing on their minds. Then there’s the discussion about where you draw the line, tier 3,4,5,6,7 or 8 ,,,, Not easy to resolve that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokloyal Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, beithboy said: Nobody has said they should be be the main source of funds for improvements, however some clubs have had their local authority give them money to help with upgrades, floodlights for example which is a great expense. In the small rural towns in Ayrshire the clubs are seen as part of the community and that's why (some) have been granted funds to upgrade their facilities promote involvement within the community. But it depends where you are and what authority you fall into. Absolutely spot on.Pollok haven’t ever received a penny from the City Council and have self funded every aspect of the Licence process including all ground upgrades.A financial Assist would be hugely appreciated of course but more importantly just some Co-operation,enthusiasm and backing from GCC.It does feel like City clubs are pretty much ignored whereas as said above clubs in rural or village/small town locations are valued and supported by their Councils on various fronts-and that can become disillusioning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejackdaw Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Lokloyal said: Absolutely spot on.Pollok haven’t ever received a penny from the City Council and have self funded every aspect of the Licence process including all ground upgrades.A financial Assist would be hugely appreciated of course but more importantly just some Co-operation,enthusiasm and backing from GCC.It does feel like City clubs are pretty much ignored whereas as said above clubs in rural or village/small town locations are valued and supported by their Councils on various fronts-and that can become disillusioning. And the city council screwed pollok over with this 900 maximum attendance nonsense . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokloyal Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Thejackdaw said: And the city council screwed pollok over with this 900 maximum attendance nonsense . Yep that was the proverbial icing on the cake!Losing money on crowds just rubbed it in once and for all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Really think every champion club should go up automatically - if criteria is met. Scottish non Lge club's don't get massive support compared to down south but, the changes that many clubs have already made - grounds, floodlights, gaining licenses has been absolutely brilliant. To see the changes made, at a decent cost, proves these clubs have taken this seriously and deserve the pyramid to work better in the future. Fully expect most Premier Divisions to be fully licensed before long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Personally, I would support a system where the highest placed licensed team takes the promotion/playoff spot but only if they achieve a certain position e.g. top 3. This would keep things competitive but not hold back licensed teams. England used to a similar thing at level 9 of the pyramid (possibly top 5 was needed but can't remember for sure). Over time, the west will catch up with the east. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Are tonight's games on? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, jimbaxters said: Are tonight's games on? Hurlford currently 3-2 against Buffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankland1874 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 8 hours ago, Thejackdaw said: And the city council screwed pollok over with this 900 maximum attendance nonsense . Is it the case that pollok won’t be used for finals due to the low capacity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, Shankland1874 said: Is it the case that pollok won’t be used for finals due to the low capacity No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shankland1874 Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, glensmad said: No. Hopefully not. Just cos the west final is at meadow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superpollok Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Shankland1874 said: Hopefully not. Just cos the west final is at meadow I would be surprised if Newlandsfield is used for finals again due to the capacity constraints. WoS finals would in most cases get 4 figure crowds Neutral venue SJC matches I would be surprised would ever be held at Newlandsfield again following the last 18 months, even if we do re enter it at some point in the future, then the added capacity issues would rule it out too. I would guess that we have had around 4 or 5 games reach capacity this season with another few less than 100 away and thats with us having an underwhelming season - so a big cup match in a location that is easy for neutrals to attend would reach capacity easily 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Shankland1874 said: Hopefully not. Just cos the west final is at meadow The venue for this year's WoSFL Cup Final was set over a year ago as Meadow applied to host it when clubs were invited to apply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Why did Glasgow CC reduce Pollok’s capacity so much, and is there any word on how it can be increased again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budandavodka Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Mediocre Pundit said: Why did Glasgow CC reduce Pollok’s capacity so much, and is there any word on how it can be increased again? Yeh be interesting to know both of these points..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Just now, Mediocre Pundit said: is there any word on how it can be increased again? Yes , move in with Queens Park when Lesser Hampden is ready. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokloyal Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, PossilYM said: Yes , move in with Queens Park when Lesser Hampden is ready. Lok are a totally distinct entity from a different part of the City so moving areas just doesn’t work-even if you are tongue in cheek! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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