the jambo-rocker Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 minute ago, coprolite said: We won't be competing for third So that's a no then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, the jambo-rocker said: So that's a no then? Correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansjambo Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Cochrane signed. 3 year deal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 5 hours ago, pansjambo said: Cochrane signed. 3 year deal He's shiiite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pansjambo Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Hoose Rice said: He's shiiite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 Kind of ambivalent about Cochrane. One one hand, there's a reason Championship teams were after him: he's a solid, consistent defender and he's recently turned 22 so there's plenty of opportunity for him to improve. On the other hand, I wonder if he's the type of player who just doesn't have a high ceiling in terms of potential ability and if we might have gone for someone with more pace and attacking ability, especially as we've got plenty of cover at LCB now. On balance, it's probably a sensible move given we know he can do the job in a few positions. I also wonder if he'll be at wing-back less often this season with Rowles arriving and "freeing" Kingsley to play there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DC92 said: Kind of ambivalent about Cochrane. One one hand, there's a reason Championship teams were after him: he's a solid, consistent defender and he's recently turned 22 so there's plenty of opportunity for him to improve. On the other hand, I wonder if he's the type of player who just doesn't have a high ceiling in terms of potential ability and if we might have gone for someone with more pace and attacking ability, especially as we've got plenty of cover at LCB now. On balance, it's probably a sensible move given we know he can do the job in a few positions. I also wonder if he'll be at wing-back less often this season with Rowles arriving and "freeing" Kingsley to play there. It’s an eminently sensible move. He knows who he’s signing for, we know what we’re getting of course it’s hard to get excited about being “sensible” But we had a long run of speculative punts at the tail end of the 2nd Levein era and that wasn’t great Edited June 26, 2022 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 On 24/06/2022 at 21:54, Dons_1988 said: This isn’t a dig at hearts btw but ‘consolidating 3rd’ doesn’t mean a linear progression in crowds, in fact it can almost work the opposite way. There was a huge buzz with us in mcinnes’ first couple of years but after 4/5/6 years of consistent league finishes then people get bored and want something new. If hearts finished 3rd 5 times in a row but didn’t win a cup and didn’t progress in Europe then people get bored. I take your point but we would have group stage Euro games till Christmas each year. Also I think Edinburgh as a bigger settlement has the potential for a club with bigger sustained crowds. Anyway, despite the euro money we could always find a way to screw things up so I'm taking nothing for granted, we've not finished top 3 more than twice in a row for a long long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 55 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: It’s an eminently sensible move. He knows who he’s signing for, we know what we’re getting of course it’s hard to get excited about being “sensible” But we had a long run of speculative punts at the tail end of the 2nd Levein era and that wasn’t great Not sure if you're classing anyone other than someone who's played for us as a speculative punt but, if you are, the current recruitment set-up seems to have a much better record on that score than Levein/Murray. My concern with the safe approach is that teams that seek to stand still often fall behind. We may need to improve just to finish 3rd again and, in the 3-4-3, the attacking output of the wing-backs was an area for improvement for me. I wouldn't have been averse to a calculated risk on a more attacking option in that position, in the knowledge that we could fall back on Halliday or Kingsley if needed. Anyway, it's a fair enough move and there are arguably more pressing areas to improve, so I'm fine with it ultimately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcor Roar Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 The Levein/Murray recruitment process was completely speculative, lacked any sort of monitoring or basic governance and ultimately led to the club's relegation after wasting millions of pounds of fans donations. What that has to do with the current recruitment team, who have so far a fantastic record, is beyond me. Would have preferred us to explore improved options but Neilson obviously thinks he can progress Cochrane and he's a capable player for a side who want to finish 3rd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 I mentioned it numerous times on the topic as I was genuinely bemused at how he was performing. I take it that was just an extremely poor performance by him in the Scottish Cup final? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: I mentioned it numerous times on the topic as I was genuinely bemused at how he was performing. I take it that was just an extremely poor performance by him in the Scottish Cup final? He was brutal in the Semi too and should have been sent off for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennyzer0 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 7 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: But we had a long run of speculative punts On which subject, good to see it confirmed that Damour is finally away. Christ, we signed some shite under Levein. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: He was brutal in the Semi too and should have been sent off for me. think the majority on this board would take him over rocky every day of the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Hoose Rice said: He was brutal in the Semi too and should have been sent off for me. He wasn't even close to being brutal in the semi. Won the ball back for Simms goal and stuck to his task. Was fine, and he had a good season overall. He played 40 games for a team that romped 3rd and got to a cup final, he's a good player with potential to improve. He was honking in the final mind but most were. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: I mentioned it numerous times on the topic as I was genuinely bemused at how he was performing. I take it that was just an extremely poor performance by him in the Scottish Cup final? Nobody had a particularly good game in the Scottish cup final. Cochrane's no exception 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Gorgie greatness said: think the majority on this board would take him over rocky every day of the week. Too fking right. Doesn't make the boy Cochrane decent though, I thought you could do better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, Tony Wonder said: He wasn't even close to being brutal in the semi. Won the ball back for Simms goal and stuck to his task. Was fine, and he had a good season overall. He played 40 games for a team that romped 3rd and got to a cup final, he's a good player with potential to improve. He was honking in the final mind but most were. Fair play. I thought he was a weak link in the Semi and like I said, lucky to stay on the pitch. You will know better having watched him weekly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 If we're going over this again, the "Cochrane should have been sent off in the semi" straw-clutching relies on the idea he'd still commit the same obviously bookable foul even if he was already on a booking, which is a bit of a leap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, Hoose Rice said: Too fking right. Doesn't make the boy Cochrane decent though, I though you could do better. Those exact words after reading your man signing rocky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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