8MileBU Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 17 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: Most surprising bit for me of the table as it stands is the HOB’s current position. Based on the last couple of seasons I’d have expected them to be challenging at the top. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Stag Nation said: Who do you want to confirm it? The rules haven't changed, and AFAIK there is no proposal to do so. No one is taking the piss, all you have is some speculation on the forums about the Tayside problem. Thanks Fairweathers quote on previous page answered the question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 The problem WW currently face is that the EoS Premier is as strong as the LL, it's a very difficult league for smaller clubs to be competitive in at the moment. It's going to take a while for the strong clubs to gravitate towards the LL and for the weaker LL clubs to replace them.That will leave them in the new First Division next season and that's not going to be an easy proposition to get out of either, then you'll have the prospect of Whitburn, Armadale, Fauldhouse, Bathgate, maybe Tayport working their way out of the basement division(s) and aiming higher, assuming they join up next season.They'll find it tough to get back to the Premier short term and the LL is probably a distant dream they may never experience again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLichty Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 On 01/01/2021 at 19:34, newcastle broon said: Why a shocker Whitehill have improved under the new management and just a pity the league didnt start 8 or 9 games ago otherwise they might no be so far adrift. A couple of narrow defeats by Haws whereas I believe they (Haws) pumped yous as well? I'd say yer worse result of the season was a 6 0 defeat at Camelon ? Not sure 5 down is confirmed either but yes yous are one of potentially 5 contenders to go down. Agreed the Haws result was a poor one and Camelon a howler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imho Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 11 hours ago, RedLichty said: Agreed the Haws result was a poor one and Camelon a howler. Are you a Dunbar supporter.? I 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Not sure where this season will go whether its fully completed, 50% completed or null and void, but im sure i read somewhere that there is a scenario where 7 clubs can be relegated from EOS Premier this season depending on outcomes in other leagues. Does anyone have details of that scenario 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Auld duffer said: Not sure where this season will go whether its fully completed, 50% completed or null and void, but im sure i read somewhere that there is a scenario where 7 clubs can be relegated from EOS Premier this season depending on outcomes in other leagues. Does anyone have details of that scenario I think it would have been current EoS Premier =18 + 2 EoS First Divisions Conference Champions = 20 + 3 teams down from the LL = 23 -7 = 16 It was the most extreme scenario that would require the EoS Champion fail to win the LL Playoff, and the HL champion winning the SPFL Playoff with Club 42 being relegated to the LL. As well as having the bottom 3 of the LL be clubs that would be relegated to the EoSFL. 6 clubs had a more realistic chance as Vale of Leithen and Edinburgh Univeristy occupy the bottom two of the LL, with the possibility of the WoSFL champion winning the LL Playoff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Thanks for clarifying that thats a great help. Four down is quite tough on the clubs in lower half of the table but seven down would be harsh in the extreme. Two or three relegated plus a play off would seem fairer. If it does go to the seven relegated scenario and it could happen, that would probably mean all these clubs would be in danger of going down based on current league positionsWhitehill WIHSBlackburnCrossgatesDunbarTynecastleHOBSauchieBroxburnNitten Appreciate some are in more precarious positions than others but even the clubs who are in slightly safer positions will be concerned 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 hours ago, Auld duffer said: Thanks for clarifying that thats a great help. Four down is quite tough on the clubs in lower half of the table but seven down would be harsh in the extreme. Two or three relegated plus a play off would seem fairer. If it does go to the seven relegated scenario and it could happen, that would probably mean all these clubs would be in danger of going down based on current league positions Whitehill W IHS Blackburn Crossgates Dunbar Tynecastle HOB Sauchie Broxburn Nitten Appreciate some are in more precarious positions than others but even the clubs who are in slightly safer positions will be concerned It was always a bare minimum of 4, to get down from 18 to 16 again and to allow 2 up from the conferences. Having more come down from the LL than go up is something that might happen regularly for a while, WoS clubs will generally be favourites in the play offs while the LL is quite east-heavy. Also, L2 has quite a few candidates for relegation in coming seasons that would go into the LL if they came down. Even if there's a move to 2-up, 2-down between the LL and tier 6, it could still mean a couple of LL clubs coming into the EoS with only one going up. That EoS Premier is only going to get more cutthroat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Auld duffer said: Not sure where this season will go whether its fully completed, 50% completed or null and void, but im sure i read somewhere that there is a scenario where 7 clubs can be relegated from EOS Premier this season depending on outcomes in other leagues. Does anyone have details of that scenario I posted it on the previous page. But it's unlikely as you need all of the following to be true: HL team promoted to League 2 (who knows if they'll finish their season) LL team relegated from League 2 (Brechin currently bottom) WOS champion gets promoted to LL (need to wait until end of Feb to see if anyone is licensed) 3 teams from the east finish at the bottom of the LL (only VoL and Edinburgh Uni at the moment) LL goes back to 16 teams (likely?) 9 hours ago, Auld duffer said: Four down is quite tough on the clubs in lower half of the table but seven down would be harsh in the extreme. Two or three relegated plus a play off would seem fairer. The point is to get back to 16 clubs in the EOS Premier. If instead of 7 you only relegated 4 then you'd be playing with 19 clubs next season and would then need to relegated even more clubs at the end of 2021/22. Edited January 28, 2021 by Ginaro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy groundhopper Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 With the current season unlikely to be completed until say June, do the changes in numbers up and down the leagues have to be in place for next season ? Think clubs would accept 3 or 4 down if the bulk of a season was completed, but anymore via PPG or something, would be harsh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 With the current season unlikely to be completed until say June, do the changes in numbers up and down the leagues have to be in place for next season ? Think clubs would accept 3 or 4 down if the bulk of a season was completed, but anymore via PPG or something, would be harsh.Agreed, between 22% and 39% of the league could be relegated and If based on 50% completion, which may be the most realistic option, then its a big call 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Hutchy Vale on football focus today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malty Guy Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Any major surprise on player signings going on anywhere? Anyone bursting the bank to get someone special in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 If the Lowland league and Highland league can decide who their champions are with less than half the league games completed on a PPG basis then surely it should set a precedent that the EOS Premier and Conference champions along with the promotion and relegation can be decided on the same basis thus avoiding the "who goes where" argument for next season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundesliga Boy Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Truthteller said: If the Lowland league and Highland league can decide who their champions are with less than half the league games completed on a PPG basis then surely it should set a precedent that the EOS Premier and Conference champions along with the promotion and relegation can be decided on the same basis thus avoiding the "who goes where" argument for next season. That would make a lot of sense. The likes of Leith and Luncarty deserve a shot at the top league after their impressive seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenon Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 They should just null and void it to avoid the possible ludicrous situation where Jeanfield could go up to the Lowland on PPG whilst Tranent have been top all season. Would also mean the LL can scrap relegation without extending the division further. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthteller Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 It's not ludicrous as Jeanfield have the best PPG and so far appear to have been the best team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Truthteller said: It's not ludicrous as Jeanfield have the best PPG and so far appear to have been the best team. If that's what the EoS want to do they have the right. The difference between the LL and EoSFL though is that the EoSFL has multiple divisions. So you'd be seeing the Conference clubs wanting champions, which in turn would lead to relegations. If not this year this year then the next. By the looks of things the LL are going to try and avoid relegating anyone this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld duffer Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 The whole thing is bizarre the SFA doing nothing as the leagues make their own individual decisions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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