Thane of Cawdor Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 13 hours ago, velo army said: At least one of those drunks were born by c section though (statistically speaking). Yes, I've learned my lesson and have nothing to say on this issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Several women phoning or texting in to Radio Scotland this morning suggesting that all men should be monitored during daylight hours and arrested if they break a curfew. Aye, right yer are hen. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 21:15, MuckleMoo said: I've never been in a fight in my life. Hopefully it stays that way, I couldn't fight to save myself. My son got into bother in St Andrews a few weeks ago. Not long 18 he had met up with friends and were heading out for a night before heading for university. Group of middle age men started on one of the girls who were out with them. My son and his friends tried to challenge them and they were knocked to f**k. Spent a week in the hospital, son got a fractured skull and a bleed on the brain. Thankfully he appears to have made a full recovery and I'm proud for what he and his mates did. Puts me to shame tbh. That's damnable. Certainly not the kind of behaviour you would expect to encounter in St Andrews. Presumably this was reported to the police? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Dispatches on channel 4 just now is looking at the scale of sexual misconduct by serving police officers. Scary stuff, and Scotland has some of the highest numbers of cases of officers being accused of inappropriate sexual misconduct in recent years yet none have been dismissed.Watched it as well, made me furious tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 That's damnable. Certainly not the kind of behaviour you would expect to encounter in St Andrews. Presumably this was reported to the police?It was, group of English guys up to play golf. Police traced them back to a hotel in St Andrews. Hopefully charges will be brought. Paramedics attended at the scene but my son refused to go to hospital. Spent the next two days throwing up before telling me what had happened. I just thought he had a hang over! Raced him down to ER as soon as he told me what had happened (got first aid training so know how serious throwing up is after a head injury). He was so lucky, amount of pain he must of been in before telling me doesn't bare thinking about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Arch Stanton said: Several women phoning or texting in to Radio Scotland this morning suggesting that all men should be monitored during daylight hours and arrested if they break a curfew. Aye, right yer are hen. Perhaps you’re not getting it. It is a reaction to people saying that women shouldn’t go out alone at night, shouldn’t wear short skirts, should stay on the phone to friends while walking etc. It’s not a serious suggestion - it is showing the absurdity of expecting women to change their behaviour in order to protect themselves against men. But there again, given you are on a thread about violence against women and misogynist attitudes, coming out with “right yer are hen”, perhaps it’s not surprising that you’re not getting it. Edited October 12, 2021 by Wee Bully 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Wee Bully said: Perhaps you’re not getting it. It is a reaction to people saying that women shouldn’t go out alone at night, shouldn’t wear short skirts, should stay on the phone to friends while walking etc. It’s not a serious suggestion - it is showing the absurdity of expecting women to change their behaviour in order to protect themselves against men. But there again, given you are on a thread about violence against women and misogynist attitudes, coming out with “right yer are hen”, perhaps it’s not surprising that you’re not getting it. Yes, I thought that was unnecessary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I do worry about my daughter. My eldest got through her teenage years OK without any incidents that I know of. My youngest (she's only 11 so this will hopefully be years away) is a bit more trusting and I do worry how she would react to being approached. I worry now, when she is 16 I'll be going doolally when she goes out. I guess most fathers are the same - a (female) friend of mine had her dad drive her to and from nightclubs when she was about 20. At the time I thought he was a mug for doing it - now I get it. I can see myself sitting in a car with a book and a thermos, like he did. Even so there is no rule that says all this happens to women on nights out or walking in the streets. My little cousin was murdered by her boyfriend almost 20 years ago at his house - where he lived with his parents. A lot of the stuff said here could come under this - respectable family, good upbringing and all that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 f**k me, what chance have we got with the clowns in charge !BBC News - Sarah Everard: Commissioner Philip Allott resignshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-58915325 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: f**k me, what chance have we got with the clowns in charge ! BBC News - Sarah Everard: Commissioner Philip Allott resigns https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-58915325 Tories gunna Tory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just to prove that a copper can get sacked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Just to prove that a copper can get sacked. Some effort to chuck away your job over 90p. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Just to prove that a copper can get sacked. On 08/10/2021 at 13:07, Mark Connolly said: Can absolutely see him getting sacked along with a "See, we are tough on the bad guys" type statement. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Some effort to chuck away your job over 90p.He should have gone undercover and shagged one of the women he was investigating, that wasn't considered a sacking offence a few years back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 There's no such thing as 'male culture', in the same way that there isn't a 'female culture' that all women are answerable for. You can't restore sweeping, outdated, sexist stereotypes just because it makes your argument against injustice simpler - though not actually insightful. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, oaksoft said: And there's the issue right there. This is just defensiveness and denial from you. And utterly depressing and predictable that you got a raft of greenies for it too. To deny male entitlement and culture is a thing is just plain ignorant and you do have to wonder why you would do that. Why don't you direct that comment at the women in your life (if you have any) and see if they agree. It's not really surprising to hear but if men like you aren't prepared to even acknowledge the problem then you cannot be part of any solution. The police have released a video about this so it's good to see someone at least try and explain this issue. Well worth a watch even if not everything he says is necessarily correct. https://that-guy.co.uk/what-can-men-do-to-help-tackle-sexual-violence/ You know i very rarely agree with you, but spot on here for once! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: You know i very rarely agree with you, but spot on here for once! I was just thinking that virginton had achieved the impossible by making me sympathise with Oaksoft's side of an argument. In Life, as in Politics, change will only come when those who are well served by the status quo seek to change it. Our wee cellar-dweller obviously doesn't think society has a problem with the way certain sectors of it are treated - as long as it doesn't affect him. As he's not affected one way or the other, he can carry on looking up big words and lobbing them up here to harvest greenies from the usual acolytes. I haven't looked, but I'd wager I could name at least 5/6 of the posters who have given his latest brain fart the thumbs-up. In fact, I'll just wait until the exact same weasels come along and give me their seal of disapproval. Depressingly predictable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 If it wasn’t for Wayne Couzens that copper would have his job and 90p extra in his wallet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 One point I poorly tried to make once on here is that the feeling of safety is not a guarantee of safety. Absolutely women should feel safe walking home from a night out, say. But that isn't the same as being safe - the Everard case is a prime example. A woman, walking at night, sees a police officer. Probably imagined that her safety level had, if anything, gone up. We know sadly that this was not the case. A woman at home might feel safe, but domestic violence and domestic abuse is (to my mind) at least as great a danger to women. Living with men, being in their homes away from prying eyes - they might feel safe but could be in danger. I'm not sure I agree with @oaksoft that male culture - even if we can define it - is the root cause of people like Couzens acting the way they do. There are many blokish men who have very macho lives, have "banter" about women, poor attitudes and never harm women. And we have many men who are not blokish, can be very polite and respectful 99% of the time and do the most horrendous stuff to women. I don't have the answer. But I fear that people in power who also don't have the answer will blunder around trying stuff to be seen to be acting in the right way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Lofarl said: If it wasn’t for Wayne Couzens that copper would have his job and 90p extra in his wallet. I doubt it...it seems his colleagues had it in for him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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