Scary Bear Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 41 minutes ago, Thorongil said: NS now into her 8th year. What are her achievements as FM? Nothing major comes to mind. I suppose if you’re a kid you’ve just been given free bus travel. That saves me a bit of money as my kids don’t have to pay for bus passes anymore. I’m in the ‘see Nic the fish and become slightly annoyed/enraged’ camp, though. I’m sick of the sight of her. Are Alba still a thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 55 minutes ago, Thorongil said: NS now into her 8th year. What are her achievements as FM? Losing my vote for the SNP. I'm sure it'll give her sleepless nights. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Thorongil said: NS now into her 8th year. What are her achievements as FM? Complete and utter mismanagement of Calmac for starters.Spending 300milion on two massively over budget ferrys when they could have replaced the whole fleet for that amount. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/11/12/how-to-end-the-madness/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Complete and utter mismanagement of Calmac for starters.Spending 300milion on two massively over budget ferrys when they could have replaced the whole fleet for that amount.Only if the contract had gone abroad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, saint in exile said: https://yoursforscotlandcom.wordpress.com/2021/11/12/how-to-end-the-madness/ Wow!! Devestating stuff. Love to hear the response from GD and the SNP cultists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Wow!! Devestating stuff. Love to hear the response from GD and the SNP cultists.It's pretty clear that the main reason we've ended up where we are is because ScotGov felt they were compelled to tender and that they wanted that tender to go to a Scottish firm with ships built in a Scottish shipyard.If they had not stepped in and not got involved It's almost certain that the tender would have been won by a foreign firm with ships built outside Scotland.You just know how the opposition would have reacted if that had happened - rocks and hard places comes to mind.As someone who has followed this closely It's clear that the real issue is the one that has plagued many a government capital project - poor management, poor specification, lack of accountability - it's a complicated issue.Whilst I think that ScotGov do need to shoulder the blame, particularly in their arms length approach to the management of the project, I think that the crocodile tears from certain elements of the opposition (SLAB in particular) are just sanctimonious shite of the first degree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorongil Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: Most of this has been since she took over. https://www.snp.org/record/ No it hasn’t. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Thorongil said: NS now into her 8th year. What are her achievements as FM? 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: Most of this has been since she took over. https://www.snp.org/record/ -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Even if you only took the establishment of Social Security Scotland which delivered hundreds of thousands of Scots from the DWP it would be more than any Scottish Government had done before with devolution powers. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 3 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Only if the contract had gone abroad. If you'd read the article you would understand why that is the only way the Calmac fleet will ever get replaced in a cost effective manner and provide the islanders with a reliable service.Lack of investment by SNP has left an ageing fleet no longer fit for purpose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 If you'd read the article you would understand why that is the only way the Calmac fleet will ever get replaced in a cost effective manner and provide the islanders with a reliable service.Lack of investment by SNP has left an ageing fleet no longer fit for purpose. I suspect we'd have had the same issues with a SLab ScotGov - the pressure was on at the time to award to a Scottish contractor and to build the ships in Scotland.Labour wouldn't have done things differently despite the shite they are spouting now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint in exile Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) That's correct mate all political parties are there to serve themselves not the people.I don't know what the answer is but the political system is broken.Run by incompetent politicians only interested in votes and staying in power.Thats why they gave the contract of those two ferries to a Scottish yard,for political reasons. It's tragic that we have allowed our shipbuilding heritage to come to this. Edited January 8, 2022 by saint in exile 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 6 hours ago, saint in exile said: That's correct mate all political parties are there to serve themselves not the people.I don't know what the answer is but the political system is broken.Run by incompetent politicians only interested in votes and staying in power.Thats why they gave the contract of those two ferries to a Scottish yard,for political reasons. It's tragic that we have allowed our shipbuilding heritage to come to this. “They’re all b*****ds!” ”Yeah, what are we going to do about it?” ”Hmm. Ehh. They’re all b*****ds!” -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Analytica Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 On 08/01/2022 at 14:04, invergowrie arab said: Even if you only took the establishment of Social Security Scotland which delivered hundreds of thousands of Scots from the DWP it would be more than any Scottish Government had done before with devolution powers. I'd rather we had universal basic income, to be honest. Those devolved powers over social security really came in handy when the Scottish Government were able to negate the universal credit uplift being removed. Oh, wait.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Ayrshire Analytica said: I'd rather we had universal basic income, to be honest. Those devolved powers over social security really came in handy when the Scottish Government were able to negate the universal credit uplift being removed. Oh, wait.. And it's still more than anything Salmond did to actually put the infrastructure of an independent nation in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Analytica Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: And it's still more than anything Salmond did to actually put the infrastructure of an independent nation in place. Apart from actually having the indyref. You know, the event which brought us closer to independence, than anything before or since. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ayrshire Analytica said: Apart from actually having the indyref. You know, the event which brought the idiocy of independence to an end. ftfy -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrshire Analytica Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 33 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: ftfy While I'm skeptical that the SNP/Green coalition will make any serious attempts to bring about independence, because I believe that they've grown complacent, comfortable, cowardly and in some cases, rich, under the status quo of devolution, that doesn't mean that demands for independence will go away. If the current elected representatives of Scotland aren't up to the task, a future generation of Scots, who are willing to act with the necessary resolve and determination to see it through, will be. Britain is, by no means, "off the hook" in Scotland. Look at the polls. Your government are utterly terrified of the prospect of indyref2. Hence, the completely undemocratic stance of "not now, not ever." -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, Ayrshire Analytica said: While I'm skeptical that the SNP/Green coalition will make any serious attempts to bring about independence, because I believe that they've grown complacent, comfortable, cowardly and in some cases, rich, under the status quo of devolution, that doesn't mean that demands for independence will go away. If the current elected representatives of Scotland aren't up to the task, a future generation of Scots, who are willing to act with the necessary resolve and determination to see it through, will be. Britain is, by no means, "off the hook" in Scotland. Look at the polls. Your government are utterly terrified of the prospect of indyref2. Hence, the completely undemocratic stance of "not now, not ever." I appreciate your work here, chap. Few bother to take time for a reasoned reprise of the situation. The part you fell down on, though, is to draw a distinction between Britain and Scotland. We solved this dilemma in 1707, thankfully. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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