scottsdad Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Why the f**k would anyone open their front door, after hearing gunshots in the street? I dare say the poor lassie's mum has asked herself - tortured herself - with this ever since. We don't know what she heard, or what else might have motivated this, but we really need to be clear that opening her own front door in no way makes the mum responsible, even partly. This scumbag pointed a firearm and pulled the trigger. He is to blame, only. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 15 hours ago, welshbairn said: I'm guessing this sentence is as a warning to wannabe gangsters that if they go around spraying bullets to try to kill an adult, and accidentally murder a child, they'll be sentenced as a child killing nonce. I wonder if this sentence is of a similar level to that handed out when young black kids are shot dead as collateral damage in London by drug dealers? Seems to me that if you are white (see Sarah Everard) there will be a bigger media outcry, and larger sentences for crimes. Maybe I am wrong, but there does seem to be a wee bit of a pattern 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Why the f**k would anyone open their front door, after hearing gunshots in the street? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 3 hours ago, MONKMAN said: Why the f**k would anyone open their front door, after hearing gunshots in the street? If it happened on my street all the nosey auld b*****ds would be out discussing it as he run down the street firing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 Verdict due in the murder trial of Gerry Hutch this morning. The trial concerns the REgency Hotel attack, where several gunmen dressed in Irish Garda uniforms, and others, attacked members of the Kinahan organised crime family at the weigh in for a boxing event in 2016. One man was killed in the attack, David Byrne, an associate of the Kinahans. Daniel Kinahan escaped. Hutch is a very well known organised crime figure in Ireland and is widely believed to be responsible for several large armed robberies in the 1990s as well as being involved, with his associates and family, in drug trafficking. While the Hutch's and Kinahan's had worked together for a time, they fell out and the murder of Hutch's nephew lead to the planning of the Regency attack. Hutch, who is 60, is alleged to have been one of the masked gunmen and to have shot Byrne dead. He is also linked, via witness testimony and other evidence to the procurement of the AK47s used in the attack, from dissident Repubican groups in Northern Ireland. He's been tried at the Special Criminal Court, where serious organised crime cases in the Republic of Ireland are held. There is no jury, a panel of three judges decide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 Live tweeting of the verdict, might be a while 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 AKA The Monk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 The start of the attack was caught on camera. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkomo-A-Gogo Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Rocking the Mel Gibson look. Don't think he will be convicted as they only have the word of Jonathan Dowdall himself a convicted criminal as evidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Nkomo-A-Gogo said: Rocking the Mel Gibson look. Don't think he will be convicted as they only have the word of Jonathan Dowdall himself a convicted criminal as evidence. There is more evidence than Jonathan Dowdall's word. Whether it's enough is another matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) This is going to take ages, the judge is going through the evidence against somebody accused of lending them his taxi for the raid, which he denies. Not sure how many are in the dock. Edited April 17, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 Two accomplices convicted, including the taxi driver. Going to do Hutch from 1:45pm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 That criminal special court has a 90% + conviction rate. Sits in front of judges rather than jurors and they seem happy to just decide someone is a wrong ‘un. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 I listened to the Nicola Tallant show on this over the weekend and they were of the opinion he wouldn't get convicted, that the evidence wasn't strong enough in it's entirity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Sounds like the court accepted Hutch was behind the attack but not that he was provably present for it, which is what he was charged with, so they had to let him go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 RIP David Byrne 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 04/04/2023 at 10:11, scottsdad said: I dare say the poor lassie's mum has asked herself - tortured herself - with this ever since. We don't know what she heard, or what else might have motivated this, but we really need to be clear that opening her own front door in no way makes the mum responsible, even partly. This scumbag pointed a firearm and pulled the trigger. He is to blame, only. Poor woman might have thought it was a car back firing or fireworks in the street and went to check what was happening. Its not her fault for any of that, poor woman probably going to be subjected to that speculative shite for the rest of her life now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: RIP David Byrne Always difficult to catch those Slippery People 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkomo-A-Gogo Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Patrick Hutch was cleared of the murder a couple of years ago despite being pictured dressed as a woman running from the scene with Kevin "flatcap" Murray. Murray is the one the right wearing the flatcap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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