ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 Live tweeting of the verdict, might be a while 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 AKA The Monk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 The start of the attack was caught on camera. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkomo-A-Gogo Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Rocking the Mel Gibson look. Don't think he will be convicted as they only have the word of Jonathan Dowdall himself a convicted criminal as evidence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 11 minutes ago, Nkomo-A-Gogo said: Rocking the Mel Gibson look. Don't think he will be convicted as they only have the word of Jonathan Dowdall himself a convicted criminal as evidence. There is more evidence than Jonathan Dowdall's word. Whether it's enough is another matter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) This is going to take ages, the judge is going through the evidence against somebody accused of lending them his taxi for the raid, which he denies. Not sure how many are in the dock. Edited April 17, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 Two accomplices convicted, including the taxi driver. Going to do Hutch from 1:45pm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 That criminal special court has a 90% + conviction rate. Sits in front of judges rather than jurors and they seem happy to just decide someone is a wrong ‘un. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 I listened to the Nicola Tallant show on this over the weekend and they were of the opinion he wouldn't get convicted, that the evidence wasn't strong enough in it's entirity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Sounds like the court accepted Hutch was behind the attack but not that he was provably present for it, which is what he was charged with, so they had to let him go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 RIP David Byrne 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 04/04/2023 at 10:11, scottsdad said: I dare say the poor lassie's mum has asked herself - tortured herself - with this ever since. We don't know what she heard, or what else might have motivated this, but we really need to be clear that opening her own front door in no way makes the mum responsible, even partly. This scumbag pointed a firearm and pulled the trigger. He is to blame, only. Poor woman might have thought it was a car back firing or fireworks in the street and went to check what was happening. Its not her fault for any of that, poor woman probably going to be subjected to that speculative shite for the rest of her life now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermik Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, MazzyStar said: RIP David Byrne Always difficult to catch those Slippery People 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nkomo-A-Gogo Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Patrick Hutch was cleared of the murder a couple of years ago despite being pictured dressed as a woman running from the scene with Kevin "flatcap" Murray. Murray is the one the right wearing the flatcap. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Wid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, Nkomo-A-Gogo said: Patrick Hutch was cleared of the murder a couple of years ago despite being pictured dressed as a woman running from the scene with Kevin "flatcap" Murray. Murray is the one the right wearing the flatcap. Not the most dramatic gangster nickname. Any idea how he got it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, printer said: Any idea how he got it? It was either that or "The Madri Man" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Shandon Par said: That criminal special court has a 90% + conviction rate. Sits in front of judges rather than jurors and they seem happy to just decide someone is a wrong ‘un. Nice timing ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 On 04/04/2023 at 09:12, MEADOWXI said: Think accident would be accidently discharging a firearm at a gun range or similar. Running down a street with two guns, firing at people, then chasing someone you have already shot, and having to use the second gun as the first has stopped working and continuing to fire into house without though or care for who may be in the fireline isn't an accident, and in no way should be thought of as such. He showed no regard for anyone in his way and deserves to be hated and removed from society. Think the point being that he clearly never set out to kill the wee lassie, so firstly to be convicted of her murder then to receive a sentence larger than another person who was convicted of killing 6 children in the same house seems like the jury and the judge were swayed heavily in some way (btw i think he should be locked away for that time, f**k him and his kind on the streets, but someone like phillpot who'll likely only do just over a year per death is a shambles of a sentence, especially as he planned the fire WITH the kids in the house, thats way more calculated than the gangster just running and shooting wildly into a house) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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